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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    If the UN cannot be regarded as impartial, then who can? If, and I don't think this would be accepted by anyone other than the most partisan pro-Israeli, the UN is not the impartial body to adjudicate and investigate the incident, who would you suggest should do so? Perhaps you believe that no investigation of the raids and the deaths is necessary.
    The UN is absolutely not impartial. The video says it all. The Israelis were attacked. No investigation is necessary.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    I don't want to read this whole thread, but where is the evidence that they were armed?

    Moreover, if they were in international waters then how isn't defending their flotilla against unauthorized boarding justified?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    If the UN cannot be regarded as impartial, then who can? If, and I don't think this would be accepted by anyone other than the most partisan pro-Israeli, the UN is not the impartial body to adjudicate and investigate the incident, who would you suggest should do so? Perhaps you believe that no investigation of the raids and the deaths is necessary.
    Yes, this same august body made up of representatitives of so many totalitarian states and tin pot dictatorships, having once passed a resolution calling the right of self determination for Jewish people "racism" is now "impartial"?

    I can't imagine how anybody could be so incredibly naive as to believe that.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I don't want to read this whole thread, but where is the evidence that they were armed?

    Moreover, if they were in international waters then how isn't defending their flotilla against unauthorized boarding justified?
    The videos show that the people on-board were attacking the Israelis with pipes and bats. They took weapons from the Israelis.

    The boarding was not unauthorized, it was legitimate.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    What will happen if Turkey decides to send another ship but next time with a military escort. Interesting question.
    What will happen if Turkey engages in an act of war?

    I imagine it will be recognized by Israel as an act of war.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    The link below asks an interesting question. Israel forcefully boarded a ship of another nation Turkey in International Waters. What will happen if Turkey decides to send another ship but next time with a military escort. Interesting question.

    YouTube - Inside Story: A look into the aid flotilla attack by Israel


    Then I for one would expect Israel to defend its blockade. I think the questions that should be being asked here is 1. What was really on those ships? 2. Why was the stated intent of the so called flotilla to break the blockade? 3. Was this intrusion into the ongoing situation there sanctioned, and approved by the Turkish government?

    To answer your question, if Turkey decided to send a ship with military escort, then I think that they would be injecting themselves into the ongoing struggle, and at fault. They would deserve what they get.


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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    The videos show that the people on-board were attacking the Israelis with pipes and bats. They took weapons from the Israelis.
    So the only weapons they had were pipes and bats?

    The boarding was not unauthorized, it was legitimate.
    How so?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    So the only weapons they had were pipes and bats?
    Until they forcibly took weapons from the Israelis and opened fire on the Israelis.

    How so?
    There have been several posts about it. Here is one: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058778784

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    So the only weapons they had were pipes and bats?

    We don't know that conclusively yet. I think it is not only premature to forward that conclusion, but irresponsible in a partisan way to do so.

    From the information we do know, the other ships had no resistance, only this one, why?


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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then I for one would expect Israel to defend its blockade. I think the questions that should be being asked here is 1. What was really on those ships?
    I don't think there is any evidence that there is anything but aid. All ships were inspected in Turkey prior to departure.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    2. Why was the stated intent of the so called flotilla to break the blockade? 3. Was this intrusion into the ongoing situation there sanctioned, and approved by the Turkish government?

    To answer your question, if Turkey decided to send a ship with military escort, then I think that they would be injecting themselves into the ongoing struggle, and at fault. They would deserve what they get.


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    Turkey is furious. Whether the Government was involved I do not now and doubt but it is angry. It was a Turkish ship. If it had been a British ship our government would have had a responsibility to protect us, particularly if we are attacked on the high seas.

    So Israel would think it was worth WW3 you think.

    You are American are you not. You should be aware that Turkey is also an important ally of the US.

    Israel seems also furious with Turkey. I heard one of their spokespeople this morning comparing the Turkish Government to Hamas. It looks like the friendship between Turkey and Israel may be at an end.
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