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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
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    nteresting that the WSJ's only real reference to whether this was in international waters or not is a quote from the Turkish Ministry.
    All indications were this was in Int'l waters as to catch/intercept before thet convoy was ready.
    The convoy, however, Fully expected interception and probable boarding.
    If they resisted despite their stated objective to do otherwise... the resulting casualties can be laid at their feet.


    If this was in International waters then Israeli troops have committed an act tantamount to piracy and the people on board the ships were entitled to defend themselves. Unfortunately I doubt anyone involved in ordering the boarding will be punished or held responsible if Israel turns out to be guilty.
    Again, they said thruout and for weeks, unarmed, peaceful, no resistance.
    If they did otherwise they defeated their own purpose and lost the Moral high ground these Jerkoffs never really had.

    Surely all the heavies behind the Charade (and MPs etc) could have prevailed on Egypt to open the Rafah border for 6 hours and gotten just as much in.

    But it was a PR STUNT to embarrass/Demonize Israel.
    The usual BS.
    and getting the intended support/'indignation' from the same Sick circle.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Gaza flotilla ships transported to Ashdod - Israel News, Ynetnews

    Benyahu confirmed that the activists snatched one of the fighters' weapons. "He was attacked by the crowd and they opened fire. During the incident, our fighters were in real danger, both from the clubs and from the weapons. They used crowd dispersal means, and when there was no choice – live ammunition. We don't know if there were any other weapons on the ship, because the entire picture is unclear. We did not encounter peace activists on this boat."
    If this is true I can understand how it ended up with 10 deaths
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    All indications were this was in Int'l waters as to catch/intercept before thet convoy was ready.
    The convoy, however, Fully expected interception and probable boarding.
    If they resisted despite their stated objective to do otherwise... the resulting casualties can be laid at their feet.
    Do you actually understand what "international waters" means?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    -- Again, they said thruout and for weeks, unarmed, peaceful, no resistance.
    If they did otherwise they defeated their own purpose and lost the Moral high ground these Jerkoffs never really had.
    It makes no difference whether they intended to resist or not, if this flotilla had been in Israeli waters then the boarding would have been justified. A hostile boarding of a ship in international waters can be classified as piracy.

    Defining the law

    A piracy attack is an attack against a vessel that happens in international waters.

    However, attacks that happen inside territorial waters, which are normally 12 nautical miles from the coast, are deemed as acts of robbery.BBC Story

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Who the Hell cares about this "Intl Waters" BS.
    They were heading by admission/For Provocation to run a Military blockade.
    Knowing that intent... It's like, ergo, [pre] 'Hot Pursuit' which loses protections of boundaries.
    They said they were unarmed and nonviolent.

    And As I said:

    Surely all the heavies behind the Charade (and MPs etc) could have prevailed on Egypt to open the Rafah border for 6 hours and gotten just as much in.

    But it was a PR STUNT to embarrass/Demonize Israel.
    The usual BS.
    and getting the intended support/'indignation' from the same Sick circle.
    Deaths are on the hands of those who ran this STUNT and resisted boarding that was fully expected.

    Tho it is another PR 'Triumph' to be used precisely like this (indignation about those 'pirate' Israelis/bloodthirsty/do anything/Zionist Jews) by people Like you.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Who the Hell cares about this "Intl Waters" BS.
    They were heading by admission/For Provocation to run a Military blockade.
    They said they were unarmed and nonviolent.

    And As I said:


    Deaths are on the hands of those who ran this STUNT and resisted boarding that was fully expected.

    Tho it is another PR 'Triumph' to be used precisely like this (indignation about those 'pirate' Israelis/bloodthirsty/do anything/Zionist Jews) by people Like YOU.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Who the Hell cares about this "Intl Waters" BS.
    Certainly not Israel - they never signed the UN convention on the laws of the sea.. Now we see why - so they and people like you could justify such acts of piracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    They were heading by admission/For Provocation to run a Military blockade.
    They said they were unarmed and nonviolent.

    And As I said:


    Deaths are on the hands of those who ran this STUNT and resisted boarding that was fully expected.

    Tho it is another PR 'Triumph' to be used precisely like this (indignation about those 'pirate' Israelis/bloodthirsty/do anything/Zionist Jews) by people Like YOU -
    For any other state (i.e. one that operates under international agreement) as long as the ship / boat is operating legally - up until a ship crosses into another nations territorial waters, it matters not what the boat is doing.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post

    That "international waters BS" is a little thing we call law. It's important.
    1. There is no real "Int'l Law". It's an abstraction. Nice two words tho.

    2. Re-read my post.

    You LOSE border protections under the doctrine of Hot Pursuit.
    and their stated intent was to Run a Military Blockade.
    Not inferred, stated, and just Hours away from doing so.
    WE are chasing Osama and Taliban Stomping all over the place and "intl Law" to catch terrorists.

    Israel is at WAR with Hamas, as we were in WWII with Germany and sinking each others Merchant shipping in Intl/ANY waters.

    Got it now?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    1. There is no real "Int'l Law". It's an abstraction. Nice two words tho.
    You cannot ask people to respect laws (like not launching rockets at you) if you do not respect the law yourself (like not boarding ships in international waters)

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    1. There is no real "Int'l Law". It's an abstraction. Nice two words tho.

    2. Re-read my post.

    You LOSE border protections under the doctrine of Hot Pursuit.
    and their stated intent was to Run a Military Blockade.
    Not inferred, stated, and just Hours away from doing so.
    WE are chasing Osama and Taliban Stomping all over the place and "intl Law" to catch terrorists.

    Israel is at WAR with Hamas, as we were in WWII with Germany and sinking each others Merchant shipping in Intl/ANY waters.

    Got it sweety?
    I never used the word "international". They where not in "hot pursuit" since the convoy had not at that point yet broken any...wait for it...laws.

    I am not your "sweety", and you will please not call me that again.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    IDF forces have attacked the activists and apparently have killed a handful of members. In there defence they insisted they had been "attacked first" with bricks and rocks. There was a hidden camera on board, apparently, not too sure how true that is. If there was we'll know the truth sooner or later. Amongst the attacked where European officials. I hold Israel close to my heart, so i hope for there sakes they really where attacked first. Otherwise as a personal mission i swear by it i will not be visiting there again.

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