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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Why is it an illegal blockade?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Why is it an illegal blockade?
    It has been called illegal by just about everyone. The reason for the blockade is political. It is because the people of Gaza voted in Hamas. The blockade on Gaza is a collective punishment on all the people of Gaza for this and/or the rockets though they are few and far between now. It is collective punishment for their democratic vote and for the actions of a few.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    The part where you pull that statement out of your ass with no basis in law?
    International law is built upon treaties. Signing the appropriate treaty binds the signator by certain conditions and assures them certain rights, protections, or authority.

    That's how international law works.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    The part where you pull that statement out of your ass with no basis in law?
    You're the one who seems to have trouble grasping international law. Forcefully boarding any ship in international waters is piracy. Forcefully boarding a humanitarian ship is even worse.

    Israel's defense is that the ship had intent to break its blockade around Gaza. There are many things wrong with this defense, because:
    - the blockade is illegal. Israel refuses to play the part of Occupying Power despite it's effective control on everything that goes in and out of Gaza.
    - the ship was not a merchant vessel, which is the only type of vessel that can be boarded if its intent is to break a legal blockade.

    Come back when you actually took some political science and international law classes and not simply restate what you heard on FoxNews.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    That link is so trustworthy it has even been changed since I gave a different quote in post 268.......but hey, maybe this will get the world's attention on Gaza and we can find a way to get this blockade lifted at last.
    yes, i quoted it in post #144, it had much more comprehensive text.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    In the case of Israel, both are acting outside of international law, and the only authority or right they can invoke to justify their behavior is that granted by might of arms.
    How are they acting outside international law?.... pull that out of the same place?

    Look, either start backing up your ridiculous claims with some facts, or watch what little credibility you have evaporate.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Why is it an illegal blockade?
    Because Gaza's territory is still under effective Israeli control. Nothing can fly over Gaza without Israeli approval. No boat can come to Gaza's coast without Israeli approval. And no person or vehicle can enter Gaza without Israeli approval. Thus Israel still occupies Gaza without playing the part of the Occupying Power.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    How are they acting outside international law?.... pull that out of the same place?

    Look, either start backing up your ridiculous claims with some facts, or watch what little credibility you have evaporate.
    If they haven't signed the treaty, they can't invoke the law to justify their actions.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    It has been called illegal by just about everyone. The reason for the blockade is political. It is because the people of Gaza voted in Hamas. The blockade on Gaza is a collective punishment on all the people of Gaza for this.
    They are trying to stop weapons from entering Gaza because those idiots in Gaza keep trying to kill Israelis..... get your facts straight for a change.

    BTW.... all blockades are political.... geezzzzzz!
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    So what we have here is two sides who cannot agree on legality, on appropriateness of action and reaction. We have several injured people one one side, several dead on the other, which people of both side just see as counters in the continuing fight and not as the tragedy it is. No one is willing to give an inch or see the possibility that their side acted less than appropriately.

    Just another day in the ME. Makes me sad.
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