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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Was there a point to this?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Which doesn't change the fact that they acted under said laws.
    They can't act under said laws because they are not bound by said laws.

    Until they sign the appropriate treaty documents, they can't invoke international law, and there's nothing they can do or say to get around that fact.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    could you please provide us with the source which documents israel's rights to assault this ship in international waters. i look forward to seeing what you offer by way of documentation

    You've been given that a half dozen times.... San Remo Manual 1994.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    If you refuse to accept international law there is no hope for you.
    So . . . there's no hope for Israel?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    They can't act under said laws because they are not bound by said laws.

    Until they sign the appropriate treaty documents, they can't invoke international law, and there's nothing they can do or say to get around that fact.


    So by that arguement they did nothing wrong...... thanx for playing.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Sucks when parties don't abide to international law doesn't it. Could be an eye-opener for Hamas and other terrorist groups.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Doesn't make a bit of difference...... that ship was trying to run the blockade, and by international law, Israel was within their rights to stop it and search it. Case closed.
    I refer you to post 268. According to Israel and there is even some dispute there, it is not against International Law but not according to others.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Was there a point to this?
    Seriously...?
    SECTION V : DEFINITIONS

    13. For the purposes of this document:

    (a) international humanitarian law means international rules, established by treaties or custom, which limit the right of parties to a conflict to use the methods or means of warfare of their choice, or which protect States not party to the conflict or persons and objects that are, or may be, affected by the conflict;
    (b) attack means an act of violence, whether in offence or in defence;
    SECTION III : ENEMY VESSELS AND AIRCRAFT EXEMPT FROM ATTACK

    Classes of vessels exempt from attack

    47. The following classes of enemy vessels are exempt from attack:

    (a) hospital ships;
    (b) small craft used for coastal rescue operations and other medical transports;
    (c) vessels granted safe conduct by agreement between the belligerent parties including:
    (i) cartel vessels, e.g., vessels designated for and engaged in the transport of prisoners of war;
    (ii) vessels engaged in humanitarian missions, including vessels carrying supplies indispensable to the survival of the civilian population, and vessels engaged in relief actions and rescue operations;
    (d) vessels engaged in transporting cultural property under special protection;
    (e) passenger vessels when engaged only in carrying civilian passengers;
    (f) vessels charged with religious, non-military scientifc or philanthropic missions, vessels collecting scientific data of likely military applications are not protected;
    (g) small coastal fishing vessels and small boats engaged in local coastal trade, but they are subject to the regulations of a belligerent naval commander operating in the area and to inspection;
    (h) vessels designated or adapted exclusively for responding to pollution incidents in the marine environment;
    (i) vessels which have surrendered;
    (j) life rafts and life boats.

    SECTION III : DECEPTION, RUSES OF WAR AND PERFIDY

    109. Military and auxiliary aircraft are prohibited at all times from feigning exempt, civilian or neutral status.

    110. Ruses of war are permitted. Warships and auxiliary vessels, however, are prohibited from launching an attack whilst flying a false flag, and at all times from actively simulating the status of:

    (a) hospital ships, small coastal rescue craft or medical transports;
    (b) vessels on humanitarian missions;
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    So by that arguement they did nothing wrong...... thanx for playing.
    No, by that argument they had just as much authority to do what they did as the Somali pirates have to do what they do. As I've said elsewhere.


    Thanks for playing. As I've said elsewhere.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    So . . . there's no hope for Israel?
    Israel is fine, they stopped a ship that may or may not have been carrying weapons to Gaza but was for a fact going to run their blockade.... all within international law.

    Actually, I think they showed great restraint by not sinking that ship after they were attacked.
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