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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    And so my point continues to be proven...

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    As for all this talk of international waters, so I wonder is it illegal to stop and board smugglers in international waters? I don't think so, and on these peoples own admission that is exactly what they were.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    It should be noted that the video should be used in combination with other evidence. By itself, it offers just a slice of evidence. The full body of evidence will provide the facts as to what happened. Several quick things:

    1) The video shows some of what was taking place.
    2) Hospital records related to the treatment of the injured soldiers will provide evidence as to how the soldiers were injured i.e., beaten, stabbed, shot.
    3) Interviews with some of those detained may shed additional light on what happened.
    4) The results of the examination of the cargo of the ship in question e.g., if the ship was carrying illicit weapons, the resistance of ship's crew might have been expected as such individuals could be subject to prosecution.
    We can rely on the IDF to make a neutral inquiry and show us the truth.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    As for all this talk of international waters, so I wonder is it illegal to stop and board smugglers in international waters? I don't think so, and on these peoples own admission that is exactly what they were.
    Of course you are correct, but the Israel haters will never agree with you here...... I wonder if they feel the same about the US efforts against smugglers in The Gulf of Mexico?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    If you mean the "relief ships"...... like, maybe weapons? It's not like the people in Gaza have ever attacked Israel is it?... and beings the ships came from Turkey, that should be a dead give away that no weapons could ever be suspected aboard..... Right?
    I understand that these ships had been checked already for weapons. Piecies of metal sound like the kind of thing a ship may well need and marbles could easily be toys. Catapults, not exactly what your prime terrorist uses. This was a relief ship. Aid can no longer be brought through Egypt as Galloway found out...... and Israel has not attacked Gaza?...... and Israel has not had Gaza under blockade for years for political reasons?...... and the children of Gaza are not increasingly suffering from malnutrition and stunted growth because of this?

    60 percent of Gaza children suffer malnutrition and anemia

    Aid is needed.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    As for all this talk of international waters, so I wonder is it illegal to stop and board smugglers in international waters? I don't think so, and on these peoples own admission that is exactly what they were.
    Since Israel isn't a signatory on the treaties that conjured into being the international law in question.

    Ergo, they can't invoke it legitimately or legally.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The soldiers boarded a ship that they had every right to board, since the flotilla had announced to the world they were going to attempt to run the blockade.
    That is incorrect.

    International Humanitarian Law - San Remo Manual 1994
    SECTION III : DECEPTION, RUSES OF WAR AND PERFIDY

    109. Military and auxiliary aircraft are prohibited at all times from feigning exempt, civilian or neutral status.

    110. Ruses of war are permitted. Warships and auxiliary vessels, however, are prohibited from launching an attack whilst flying a false flag, and at all times from actively simulating the status of:

    (a) hospital ships, small coastal rescue craft or medical transports;
    (b) vessels on humanitarian missions;
    (c) passenger vessels carrying civilian passengers;
    (d) vessels protected by the United Nations flag;
    (e) vessels guaranteed safe conduct by prior agreement between the parties, including cartel vessels;
    (f) vessels entitled to be identified by the emblem of the red cross or red crescent; or
    (g) vessels engaged in transporting cultural property under special protection.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    I understand that these ships had been checked already for weapons. Piecies of metal sound like the kind of thing a ship may well need and marbles could easily be toys. Catapults, not exactly what your prime terrorist uses. This was a relief ship. Aid can no longer be brought through Egypt as Galloway found out...... and Israel has not attacked Gaza?...... and Israel has not had Gaza under blockade for years for political reasons?...... and the children of Gaza are not increasingly suffering from malnutrition and stunted growth because of this?

    60 percent of Gaza children suffer malnutrition and anemia



    Aid is needed.
    Doesn't make a bit of difference...... that ship was trying to run the blockade, and by international law, Israel was within their rights to stop it and search it. Case closed.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The soldiers boarded a ship that they had every right to board, since the flotilla had announced to the world they were going to attempt to run the blockade.
    could you please provide us with the source which documents israel's rights to assault this ship in international waters. i look forward to seeing what you offer by way of documentation
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Since Israel isn't a signatory on the treaties that conjured into being the international law in question.

    Ergo, they can't invoke it legitimately or legally.
    Which doesn't change the fact that they acted under said laws.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
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