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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    So are Americans responsible for the actions of their leaders? That is the same logic bin Laden used when he tried to justify 9/11.

    Hamas is responsible for Hamas. Why can't you leave it at that? And the things most people seem to forget is that close to half of Gaza's population could not even vote when Hamas won parliamentary elections.
    That is a narrow and convenient view that tries unsuccessfully to shift responsibility. When two countries are at war, do you suppose it is only the governments which oppose each other?

    Ironically, it is the Hamas leadership which targets civilians, while Israel does all it can to minimize civilian casualties. Your premise is so absurd as to be laughable. Should we debate whether the sun rises up in the West?

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    Should we debate whether the sun rises up in the West?
    I think that's perfectly debatable.
    On one hand you have Palestinians doing wrong, on the other you have Israel exaggerating the problem. Can hardly blame them voting Hamas out of fustration though would rather not make any attempts to justify it since that is not possible. What degreez says is, to a degree (lol), is correct, but we know what policies we vote for, dont we?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Sure, and George Bush is responsible for the Iraq war. In fact, he personally killed 100,000 Iraqis. Don't blame me, I only voted for the guy. LOL!

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    I was going by the World Bank statistics:

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    World's Fattest Countries - Forbes.com

    Odd. They don't appear to be in the top ten.
    They also don't appear to be in the top 50.
    In fact, they don't appear to be on the list at all, WTF?
    Palestine doesn't appear to be in the fattest 194 countries.
    Israel's number 50.
    Maybe Palestine's not listed because it's not considered a country.
    Maybe the list-makers count it as part of Israel.
    Either way, you'd think if Palestinians were that obese, they'd appear on there in some way, shape, or form.
    Maybe it's a big Islamic conspiracy to make the US and Israel look fat and stupid, do you think?
    http://vladtepesblog.com/wp-content/...14-Obesity.jpg

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I was going by the World Bank statistics:

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    CIA Factbook: Gaza

    Unemployement seems fantastic at 41%
    Another reason why your GDP/C claims suck

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    GDP (purchasing power parity - PPP): $11.95 billion (2008 est.)

    GDP (official exchange rate): $6.641 billion (2008 est.)

    GDP - real growth rate: 0.8% (2008 est.)

    GDP - per capita (PPP): $2,900 (2008 est.)
    Egypt:

    GDP ( purchasing power parity - PPP): $444.8 billion (2008 est.)

    GDP (official exchange rate): $162.6 billion (2008 est.)

    GDP - real growth rate: 7.2% (2008 est.)

    GDP - per capita (PPP): $5,800 (2008 est.)
    Another example of the pointless comparisons

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    CIA Factbook: Gaza

    Unemployement seems fantastic at 41%
    Another reason why your GDP/C claims suck
    Meh Palestinians receive almost as much in international aid Per Capita as the entire per capita GDP of Egypt, at least according to the GDP Per Capita stats of the World Bank.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Meh Palestinians receive almost as much in international aid Per Capita as the entire per capita GDP of Egypt, at least according to the GDP Per Capita stats of the World Bank.
    Why should they be degraded to the point where economic survival only becomes possible through AID? I see no good in any of this.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Why should they be degraded to the point where economic survival only becomes possible through AID? I see no good in any of this.
    It's not they have a relatively high GDP Per Capita.

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