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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    1 – Not what the UN, savethe children, amnesty etc etc say...
    Palestinians are actually within the top 10 obese peoples in the world. They are not starving.

    2 – Israel ALLOWS in 15,000 tons because they have blockaded everything else. Why do they allow the bare minimum – well they already get away with collective punishment however even the US wouldn't allow Israel to starve 1.5million Palestinians to death.
    Israel allows merchant goods in as well and that is in addittion to the aid that is allowed through.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Palestinians are actually within the top 10 obese peoples in the world. They are not starving.
    There must be a lot of fat in the very little rations they receive then? You really cant use these arguments. Im just saying...plus, aren't computers not allowed into Gaza? How about chocolates? Chocolate is a human right.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    There must be a lot of fat in the very little rations they receive then? You really cant use these arguments. Im just saying...plus, aren't computers not allowed into Gaza? How about chocolates? Chocolate is a human right.
    Palestinians have a higher Per Capita GDP than Jordan and Egypt and they receive more in international aid than any country on the planet.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Palestinians have a higher Per Capita GDP than Jordan and Egypt and they receive more in international aid than any country on the planet.
    And even then the absurd prices of basic commodities go beyond what most Palestinians can afford. Computers? Chocolates? Come on. Nobody wants to live like that.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    And even then the absurd prices of basic commodities go beyond what most Palestinians can afford. Computers? Chocolates? Come on. Nobody wants to live like that.
    Kaya, you are debating with Grant/Picaro/Ferris. Are you expecting s/he is likely to accept your points?
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Hamas are trying to kill Israelis
    Don't think I'm without sympathy for Gazans. However, they elected Hamas, they support Hamas, they defend Hamas, and ultimately they are responsible for the actions of their leaders. I'm completely familiar with the old shell game of "it's not Palestinians, it's Hamas."

    If we start from the assumption that Palestinians are not responsible for Hamas, and not responsible for the terrorist acts of Hamas, then we should conclude that Hamas is responsible for the suffering of its own people, and conclude that Hamas must be removed by force if necessary in order to free Gaza.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Palestinians have a higher Per Capita GDP than Jordan and Egypt and they receive more in international aid than any country on the planet.
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...me&rank=166#we
    134 Egypt $ 6,000 - 2009 est.
    139 Jordan $ 5,300 - 2009 est.
    166 West Bank $ 2,900 - 2008 est.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Palestinians are actually within the top 10 obese peoples in the world. They are not starving.



    Israel allows merchant goods in as well and that is in addittion to the aid that is allowed through.

    World's Fattest Countries - Forbes.com

    Odd. They don't appear to be in the top ten.
    They also don't appear to be in the top 50.
    In fact, they don't appear to be on the list at all, WTF?
    Palestine doesn't appear to be in the fattest 194 countries.
    Israel's number 50.
    Maybe Palestine's not listed because it's not considered a country.
    Maybe the list-makers count it as part of Israel.
    Either way, you'd think if Palestinians were that obese, they'd appear on there in some way, shape, or form.
    Maybe it's a big Islamic conspiracy to make the US and Israel look fat and stupid, do you think?

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    Don't think I'm without sympathy for Gazans. However, they elected Hamas, they support Hamas, they defend Hamas, and ultimately they are responsible for the actions of their leaders. I'm completely familiar with the old shell game of "it's not Palestinians, it's Hamas."
    So are Americans responsible for the actions of their leaders? That is the same logic bin Laden used when he tried to justify 9/11.
    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    If we start from the assumption that Palestinians are not responsible for Hamas, and not responsible for the terrorist acts of Hamas, then we should conclude that Hamas is responsible for the suffering of its own people, and conclude that Hamas must be removed by force if necessary in order to free Gaza.
    Hamas is responsible for Hamas. Why can't you leave it at that? And the things most people seem to forget is that close to half of Gaza's population could not even vote when Hamas won parliamentary elections.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Kaya, you are debating with Grant/Picaro/Ferris. Are you expecting s/he is likely to accept your points?
    Im trying to burn water, aren't i? Lol.

    So does Qatar, but every thieving corrupted politician seems to squabble up the funds nicely. GDP per capita reflects nothing. It also does not change the purchasing power of that nation if its commodities are pathetically high. In fact, theoretically, GDP/C is useless in this scenario.

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    World's Fattest Countries - Forbes.com

    Odd. They don't appear to be in the top ten.
    They also don't appear to be in the top 50.
    In fact, they don't appear to be on the list at all, WTF?
    Palestine doesn't appear to be in the fattest 194 countries.
    Israel's number 50.
    Maybe Palestine's not listed because it's not considered a country.
    Maybe the list-makers count it as part of Israel.
    Either way, you'd think if Palestinians were that obese, they'd appear on there in some way, shape, or form.
    Maybe it's a big Islamic conspiracy to make the US and Israel look fat and stupid, do you think?
    Thats interesting.

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