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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    In regards to maritime laws, I believe the ships in question must fly the flag in which country it is registered and must comply to all the laws of the sea, up to and including a legal blockade. The crews of the ships in question would be ultimately be responsible for it's crew and passengers. To sail deliberately into a hostile situation and as a result deaths occur aboard this ships , would be the responsibility of the Captain and owners of these vessels. Smuggling is also taken very seriously and I believe can be considered as a hostile or even a wartime ship. Then again I could be completely wrong on this but, if I was Israel I would have all the Maritime lawyers working on this and if in fact this was the case I would bring suit to the countries and owners and captains of these vessels.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    In regards to maritime laws, I believe the ships in question must fly the flag in which country it is registered and must comply to all the laws of the sea, up to and including a legal blockade. The crews of the ships in question would be ultimately be responsible for it's crew and passengers. To sail deliberately into a hostile situation and as a result deaths occur aboard this ships , would be the responsibility of the Captain and owners of these vessels. Smuggling is also taken very seriously and I believe can be considered as a hostile or even a wartime ship. Then again I could be completely wrong on this but, if I was Israel I would have all the Maritime lawyers working on this and if in fact this was the case I would bring suit to the countries and owners and captains of these vessels.
    Well I haven't consdiered this, but thanks for the information.
    I'll do some research about this myself.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    It is a illegel blockade,. so they sould break it
    Ryrine,

    This is simply false. The express purpose of the blockade is to restrict the flow of deadly munitions to a belligerent and hostile group of extremists. Legitimate humanitarian aid (about 15,000 tonnes per week) is permitted to flow uninhibited to the populace of Gaza.

    Either you do not understand international law or you are being purposely dishonest.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Some of them were shot in the back of the head, and back there is no honor in shooting someone in the back of the head, or in the back while they are running away. This simple act means this person is a coward who doesn't want to face his enemy while shooting them, and any one who condones this are people with no honor themselves. Their is alway such a thing like over kill, since one shot in the head is good enough too kill them. This simple was an act of murder by someone with a gun, and so far the ones with a gun were the IDF thought I also read that the people took some guns from the IDF people on board the ship, but do we know if they had been shot off as well?

    Cengiz Alquyz, 42

    Four gunshot wounds: back of head, right side of face, back, left leg

    Ibrahim Bilgen, 60

    Four gunshot wounds: right chest, back, right hip, right temple

    Cegdet Kiliclar, 38

    One gunshot wound: middle of forehead

    Furkan Dogan, 19

    Five gunshot wounds: nose, back, back of head, left leg, left ankle

    Sahri Yaldiz

    Four gunshot wounds: left chest, left leg, right leg twice

    Aliheyder Bengi, 39

    Six gunshot wounds: left chest, belly, right arm, right leg, left hand twice

    Cetin Topcuoglu, 54

    Three gunshot wounds: back of head, left side, right belly

    Cengiz Songur, 47

    One gunshot wound: front of neck

    Necdet Yildirim, 32

    Two gunshot wounds: right shoulder, left back
    This report can be found here by the Garudian

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I don't think they were trying to get anyone killed.
    Khay,

    Then why were they stabbing and bludgeoning the Israeli commandos?

    Like any act of non-violent disobedience...
    Again, there was nothing nonviolent about their actions. They brutally attacked the Israeli commandos as soon as they boarded the ship.

    ...the goal is to expose your enemy's violent/oppressive nature and to draw as much attention to that as possible in order to discredit their false legitimacy.
    Israel's blockade of Gaza is the consequence of Palestinian belligerence and hostility, hence it is totally legitimate.

    Considering the amount of attention this has gotten and the international outcry to Israel's actions, this is a massive success.
    A massive success for the haters of Israel and the Jewish people, yes. I'm not saying you're one of them, but the purpose of this flotilla was to further isolate and demonize the Israeli people. That they succeeded so easily in propagating their lies and bigoted agenda is quite discomfiting.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Some of them were shot in the back of the head, and back there is no honor in shooting someone in the back of the head, or in the back while they are running away. This simple act means this person is a coward who doesn't want to face his enemy while shooting them, and any one who condones this are people with no honor themselves. Their is alway such a thing like over kill, since one shot in the head is good enough too kill them. This simple was an act of murder by someone with a gun, and so far the ones with a gun were the IDF thought I also read that the people took some guns from the IDF people on board the ship, but do we know if they had been shot off as well?
    What you also may not wish to take as a possibility, is that they might as well have been shot by their buddies while they were attempting to hit the IDF.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    Some of them were shot in the back of the head, and back there is no honor in shooting someone in the back of the head, or in the back while they are running away. This simple act means this person is a coward who doesn't want to face his enemy while shooting them, and any one who condones this are people with no honor themselves. Their is alway such a thing like over kill, since one shot in the head is good enough too kill them. This simple was an act of murder by someone with a gun, and so far the ones with a gun were the IDF thought I also read that the people took some guns from the IDF people on board the ship, but do we know if they had been shot off as well?



    This report can be found here by the Garudian
    Of the nine people believed to have died, four are known to be Turkish. Two have been identified, while authorities are trying to confirm the identity of the others. One was named locally as Muharrem Kocak, an IHH volunteer. The nationalities of the remaining dead have not been confirmed.

    Yesterday the wife of one of the men, Ali Haydar Bengi, said he “constantly prayed to become a martyr”. Mr Bengi, 39, who had four children, had studied at al-Azhar University in Cairo, a leading seat of Islamic learning.

    “Before embarking on the journey, he said he desired to become a martyr,” his friend, Sabir Ceylan, said.

    Gaza flotilla attack: Turkish activists killed in raid 'wanted to be martyrs' - Telegraph

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Of the nine people believed to have died, four are known to be Turkish. Two have been identified, while authorities are trying to confirm the identity of the others. One was named locally as Muharrem Kocak, an IHH volunteer. The nationalities of the remaining dead have not been confirmed.

    Yesterday the wife of one of the men, Ali Haydar Bengi, said he “constantly prayed to become a martyr”. Mr Bengi, 39, who had four children, had studied at al-Azhar University in Cairo, a leading seat of Islamic learning.

    “Before embarking on the journey, he said he desired to become a martyr,” his friend, Sabir Ceylan, said.

    Gaza flotilla attack: Turkish activists killed in raid 'wanted to be martyrs' - Telegraph
    All 9 were identified as Turkish, one of them a Turkish person with an American citizenship.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    That's how real peace activists act:

    Seized ship enters Ashdod Port - Israel News, Ynetnews

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    All 9 were identified as Turkish, one of them a Turkish person with an American citizenship.
    So this as been updated, I already had a gut feeling of this, just didn't want to post it.

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