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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Although the wisdom of Israel's actions in stopping the Gaza flotilla is open to question, the legality of its actions is not. What Israel did was entirely consistent with both international and domestic law. In order to understand why Israel acted within its rights, the complex events at sea must be deconstructed.

    The rest here...
    Alan Dershowitz: Israel's Actions Were Entirely Lawful Though Probably Unwise
    You don't honestly believe that Deshowitz is either an authority on international law or an unbiased commentator concerning Israel?

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Michael Oren also stated on the Diane Rehm interview,today, that "the ship was too large to stop by non-violent means" ...so violent means were planned? Makes you wonder if he let the cat out of the bag, unintentionally.
    Given that there were no incidents on any of the other boats and that the audio of the encounter indicates that the troops were very startled by the resistance, I think that's a bit of a stretch.

    Moreover, why on earth would the Israelis want this to turn into a violent confrontation? Both sides knew full well that a violent incident would arouse sympathy for the activists, so that's exactly what the Israelis were trying to avoid and what the activists sought out.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Michael Oren also stated on the Diane Rehm interview,today, that "the ship was too large to stop by non-violent means" ...so violent means were planned? Makes you wonder if he let the cat out of the bag, unintentionally.
    If your quote is accurate why would the Israelis send troops in with paintball guns and allow themselves to be beaten with ax handles and metal rods, stabbed and slashed with knives and shot before shooting back with side arms (not assault weapons) if violent means were planned?

    Maybe he meant force not violence.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    You don't honestly believe that Deshowitz is either an authority on international law or an unbiased commentator concerning Israel?
    Yes, Jews have no credibility when it comes to Jews.

    The Islamists who initiated the attacks, on the other hand, are always perfectly credible.
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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    You don't honestly believe that Deshowitz is either an authority on international law or an unbiased commentator concerning Israel?
    He seems knowledgeable enough on the following count:

    The second issue is whether it is lawful to enforce a legal blockade in international waters. Again, law and practice are clear. If there is no doubt that the offending ships have made a firm determination to break the blockade, then the blockade may be enforced before the offending ships cross the line into domestic waters. Again the United States and other western countries have frequently boarded ships at high sea in order to assure their security.
    Alan Dershowitz: Israel's Actions Were Entirely Lawful Though Probably Unwise

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    10-20 deads is still a lot
    and yet not nearly enough
    should have killed them all
    attack the military and odds are the military will kill you
    their objective was to provoke teh miliitary
    they attacked the military despite teh fact taht they boarded only to inspect
    should ahve killed them all, just to be safe

    hopefully they will just sink the next douchebags who try this

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    and yet not nearly enough
    should have killed them all
    attack the military and odds are the military will kill you
    their objective was to provoke teh miliitary
    they attacked the military despite teh fact taht they boarded only to inspect
    should ahve killed them all, just to be safe

    hopefully they will just sink the next douchebags who try this
    Wow, advocating a massacre... a firm but fair course of action

    Not everyone on the ship was attacking the soldiers albiet. But hey who cares right? They're muslim.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    You don't honestly believe that Deshowitz is either an authority on international law or an unbiased commentator concerning Israel?
    One thing for sure Alan Deshowitz being a credited lawyer and practicing law for a very long time, probably knows a helluva lot more about law than any of us here international or otherwise. That said, being a lawyer and having a article printed in a very liberal newspaper, I am sure he had his facts checked and rechecked. Although if you know something we don't please enlighten us...BTW are you a lawyer. Now we can also turn the tables on most of the posters who disagree with what Israel did, the extent of their knowledge of Israel and it's plight is what they hear and see on the media and then forming a bais opinion of their own. So what makes the posters here more fair and equal in judgment than Alan Deshowitz when most have never been to the Middle East or Israel or even lived in a constant state of war.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Wow, advocating a massacre... a firm but fair course of action

    Not everyone on the ship was attacking the soldiers albiet. But hey who cares right? They're muslim.
    they were there on a mission to provoke an international incident resulting in the death of its intended targets
    right to life was submitted by being apart of it.

    they attacked and killed people who were armed with nothing more than painball guns
    the youtube videos show the unprovoked deadly assaults on IDF whose sole purpose was to verify NO CONTRABAND
    you **** with the bull you get the horn
    and you lose the right to bitch about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Israel intercepts Gaza flotilla, says Hamas

    when Rodney King was attacked in a similar fashion the world was on his side

    when Jews are attacked in the same fashion, ITS THEIR FAULT

    just because it is popular does not make it right

    Why is N Korea sinking a S Korea ship no big deal, but this is apocalyptic

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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