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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So giving money to men who believe its ok to rape women would be ok with you?
    Its a free country (in theory)
    , and it is their money.


    Please do not lie about my position. I said I have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants not foreigners.
    Did i claim that was your position??



    Wow. How deliciously ignorant of you. So no one is ever denied a college position even though space is limited and you support illegals taking those positions. Unbelievable.
    to a community college.. not that I have ever heard of. First come first serve, it is open enrollment and acceptance or is your problem an issue that an illegal might be more eager and not procrastinate enrolling in the class making a lazy citizen wait a semester?

    University is a different story, but then they are PRIVATE institutions.
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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Tex has this exactly correct. My daughter whom graduated two years ago with a 3.8 was denied a spot at the University of Maryland due to this very thing.
    Well, that's what a lot of students who didn't get their first choice like to tell themselves...

    It was unfair... I'm smarter... I worked harder...

    That's just not always the case.

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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Talk about impatient. You asked the same question 3 times in 3 minutes, getting angrier at the lack of an answer. Why do I support this? The way I see it, the more money that goes to education the better. If there's a larger demand, universities will expand or new ones will be built. That wonderful free market can adapt. I suppose my feelings on this stem from my belief that our immigration policies should be much more open. If you don't have valuable skills, a bunch of money, or a family member here, you have virtually no chance of being allowed to become a citizen. The only crime these people are guilty of is seeking a better life for themselves. Honestly I place illegal immigration as a crime on about the same level as underage drinking. I don't encourage it but as long as it's done safely I don't really have a problem with it. Someone working hard enough to get good grades deserves a chance. That's what America is supposed to be about, right? Opportunity? A $2500 scholarship can be a huge difference in someone's life if it gets them an education which leads to a career as opposed to menial labor.


    edit: As I wrote this you equated illegal immigration to rape. Really? I mean, really?
    There's a lot of things illegal immigrants sometimes do once they get here that I disapprove of, but going to school isn't one of those things.



    A lot of illegal immigrants in Maryland? Did the rejection letter tell you "sorry, we gave the slot to an illegal immigrant."
    edit2: Basically I'm calling you a liar.


    The letter didn't use such blatant language as that. It basically said that as a part of their slots available, and their policy of a "diverse" student population that a slot would not be available to her. And you can call names all you want I know what went on.

    Second, are you a wealthy person? Because if so, I'd like to see what you have. I think I might be entitled to some of it.


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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Typical Hazel. Ignore the facts and attack the source without any evidence to support it.
    I just gave you the FACTS. You can't enroll in a CA Jr college, CSU, or UC without a Social Security number or proof of legal residency.


    As long as you are first on the boat I'm all for it!
    I already graduated college (18 years ago). I've worked a job since I was sixteen. I owe a business in CA that employs people.

    I wouldn't qualify to take the test I described. Would you?

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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Well, that's what a lot of students who didn't get their first choice like to tell themselves...

    It was unfair... I'm smarter... I worked harder...

    That's just not always the case.
    Maybe not, but I am sure if you took the time to do a simple google of that time period in Maryland, you would see that was around the time that UofM came under fire for this very thing.

    Further, lets not show your ass ok? You don't know my daughter, and to imply that she is somehow lacking something, that an illegal can offer a University is an insult, and you should consider yourself lucky this is a message board, and not an in person gathering.


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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The letter didn't use such blatant language as that. It basically said that as a part of their slots available, and their policy of a "diverse" student population that a slot would not be available to her. And you can call names all you want I know what went on.

    Second, are you a wealthy person? Because if so, I'd like to see what you have. I think I might be entitled to some of it.


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    You actually don't know why your daughter wasn't accepted to University of Maryland. They don't tell kids why, just that they aren't accepted. It could have been because they already accepted x number of students from your state and they didn't want anymore.

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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe not, but I am sure if you took the time to do a simple google of that time period in Maryland, you would see that was around the time that UofM came under fire for this very thing.

    Further, lets not show your ass ok? You don't know my daughter, and to imply that she is somehow lacking something, that an illegal can offer a University is an insult, and you should consider yourself lucky this is a message board, and not an in person gathering.
    When you decide to offer some links, proof, anything to back up your claim that an illegal got your daughter's spot, please be sure to PM me.

    Until then, I wish you daughter well in her studies. You get out of it, what you put into it. I went to a CSU and made more $$ my first year out then all of my UC friends.

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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Talk about impatient. You asked the same question 3 times in 3 minutes, getting angrier at the lack of an answer.
    Thats some narcisscim you are displaying. Take a look, I wasn't responding to you 3 times. LOL

    Try actually reading who I quoted skippy.

    Why do I support this? The way I see it, the more money that goes to education the better. If there's a larger demand, universities will expand or new ones will be built.
    And you are basing this off what? Hope and change? And exactly how does that benifit the legal immigrants who are denied now for illegals? Do you just not care about them?

    That wonderful free market can adapt. I suppose my feelings on this stem from my belief that our immigration policies should be much more open. If you don't have valuable skills, a bunch of money, or a family member here, you have virtually no chance of being allowed to become a citizen. The only crime these people are guilty of is seeking a better life for themselves. Honestly I place illegal immigration as a crime on about the same level as underage drinking. I don't encourage it but as long as it's done safely I don't really have a problem with it. Someone working hard enough to get good grades deserves a chance. That's what America is supposed to be about, right? Opportunity? A $2500 scholarship can be a huge difference in someone's life if it gets them an education which leads to a career as opposed to menial labor.
    Opportunity for legal citizens not illegal. Its amazing you think we can keep absorbing people who break our law and think there are no consequences for legal citizens.

    Or you just don't care what legal citizens they hurt.

    edit: As I wrote this you equated illegal immigration to rape. Really? I mean, really?
    No I equated someone claiming overlooking one crime is ok over another.

    There's a lot of things illegal immigrants sometimes do once they get here that I disapprove of, but going to school isn't one of those things.
    They will deny a position for a legal citizen. But as we have established, you don't care about them or you wouldn't condone law breakers taking scholarships from legal citizens.

    A lot of illegal immigrants in Maryland? Did the rejection letter tell you "sorry, we gave the slot to an illegal immigrant."
    edit2: Basically I'm calling you a liar.
    Its amazing how little your brain functions. If one illegal received a position at at university then that takes away from one legal citizen being there who actually has the legal right to attend.
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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Its a free country (in theory)
    , and it is their money.
    Way to duck the question.

    Did i claim that was your position??
    Yes you did. I quote you: If you have an issue with foreigners getting educated

    Next time do not lie about my position.

    to a community college.. not that I have ever heard of. First come first serve, it is open enrollment and acceptance or is your problem an issue that an illegal might be more eager and not procrastinate enrolling in the class making a lazy citizen wait a semester?
    It doesn't matter how eager an illegal is. They are still illegal. What part of that don't you understand?

    University is a different story, but then they are PRIVATE institutions.
    Please show us in the law where you can be illegal in this country and the rules don't apply to you. Go ahead.
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    Re: Calif. College Offers Scholarship to Illegal Immigrants

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    You actually don't know why your daughter wasn't accepted to University of Maryland. They don't tell kids why, just that they aren't accepted. It could have been because they already accepted x number of students from your state and they didn't want anymore.
    If one illegal was accepted that denied one legal citizen from being accepted. You can't get around that.
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