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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Japan's economy will be in the gutter by 2015 with the way things are going. This smells like a cozy distraction for the drooling masses.
    Actually, there may be much more to the story than just a mere robotic presence on the moon. Japan faces a declining population. If robots can be adapted to carry out advanced procedures on the moon, those adapations can be applied to industrial applications well beyond what is possible today. If Japan can achieve breakthroughs on that front, Japan might be better able to ensure the productivity it needs to sustain a high standard of living in the face of its declining population. At the same time, the country or countries that build and sustain competitive advantages in space might be able to translate those advantages into economic returns on earth, including in such fields as energy. Hence, in the larger scheme of things, Japan's investment in the moon project could amount to just a piece of a larger R&D-related strategy toward addressing some of Japan's practical challenges and allowing it to leverage future opportunities.

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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    I'm fine with trying to get back to a good economy and good foreign relationships. We'll worry about outer space related endeavors after the unemployment isn't around 10%.
    Attempts to get back to the moon can help put unemployment below 10% though.

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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

    It would also put us in more debt.

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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the moon contains ten times more energy in the form of helium-3 than all the fossil fuels on the earth
    and the major industrial nation more dependent on imports of energy sources than the USA is japan
    25 tons would satisfy America's annual energy needs
    it would not surprise me if the japanese are embarking on an He-3 mining venture
    if successful, japan could own the world's energy cartel in the future
    Only one problem with that. The Japanese won't control the He-3... The moon robots will.

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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

    The Japanese are doing space programs the right way. Human astronauts going places is simply a leftover fantasy from the 60's. Robots are infinitely cheaper and efficient, not to mention that robot technology built for space also have practical earth based applications as well. The total budget of the program is 2.2 billion, a number that the use pisses away is canceled defense projects every single year. I hope that Obama realizes that robots are the future and modifies our program accordingly.

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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the moon contains ten times more energy in the form of helium-3 than all the fossil fuels on the earth
    and the major industrial nation more dependent on imports of energy sources than the USA is japan
    25 tons would satisfy America's annual energy needs
    it would not surprise me if the japanese are embarking on an He-3 mining venture
    if successful, japan could own the world's energy cartel in the future
    And they found a lot more water than they thought there would be . So there's water to make concrete. Did you see the movie about harvesting the healium 3 called "Moon?"

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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the moon contains ten times more energy in the form of helium-3 than all the fossil fuels on the earth
    and the major industrial nation more dependent on imports of energy sources than the USA is japan
    25 tons would satisfy America's annual energy needs
    it would not surprise me if the japanese are embarking on an He-3 mining venture
    if successful, japan could own the world's energy cartel in the future
    Lunar regolith contains .01ppm of He-3 and we still haven't demonstrated an energy-positive fusion reaction. The energy required to move 25 tons of material from the moon down to earth is pretty huge. Also, solar power may have some difficulty powering mining equipment. Before such a venture could be useful, we need to naildown that "can we do this fusion thing at all" problem.
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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    July, 2021 - Japanese Robots email earth The Declaration of Robot Independence ...

    August 2021 - All communications with Robot moon base cease...

    October 2021 - Robots reported to be building a weapon based on the Uranium P32 Space Modulator from the Warners Bros. Cartoons.

    December 2021 - Earth Destroyed by Robot weapon.



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    Re: Japan Plans a Moon Base by 2020, Built by Robots for Robots

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    It would also put us in more debt.
    No matter what we do, we're going to get into more debt. So what we should do is invest that debt into long-term advances for technology that can be used in other industries, and then have the government put a tax on those patents to raise revenue to pay off the debt. That would lower unemployment, increase our technological proficiencies, and raise tax revenue all at the same time.

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