Page 3 of 8 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 73

Thread: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

  1. #21
    Familiaist


    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    North Carolina
    Last Seen
    11-16-16 @ 09:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    7,470

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And you can thank the beloved environmentalists for pushing us out into the middle of freaking nowhere to have to drill. If this were on land or in shallow water, this would have been capped by Day 2.
    So environmentalists are the reason that BP neglected preventative measures?
    "I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann

  2. #22
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Naperville, IL
    Last Seen
    09-24-12 @ 02:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    11,963

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And you can thank the beloved environmentalists for pushing us out into the middle of freaking nowhere to have to drill. If this were on land or in shallow water, this would have been capped by Day 2.
    How so?

    Please, explain the logic of that statement. Be sure to include links that back up the 'thought process' you used to reach that conclusion.

  3. #23
    Professor

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Nashville, TN
    Last Seen
    11-21-14 @ 03:20 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    2,120

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    How so?

    Please, explain the logic of that statement. Be sure to include links that back up the 'thought process' you used to reach that conclusion.
    And while you're at it, why don't you expose how you work for the oil industry. At least you should, because that's a line that would come straight from their mouths.

    Poor oil industry always having to put up with people who don't like it when they spill billions of gallons of oil, kill off endangered species, ruin fishing and shrimping industries, destroy tourism...

    And all because they wanted to save $500,000 on preventative measures and our lazy-ass MMA regulators let them.

  4. #24
    Slayer of the DP Newsbot
    danarhea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:17 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    39,756

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    And while you're at it, why don't you expose how you work for the oil industry. At least you should, because that's a line that would come straight from their mouths.

    Poor oil industry always having to put up with people who don't like it when they spill billions of gallons of oil, kill off endangered species, ruin fishing and shrimping industries, destroy tourism...

    And all because they wanted to save $500,000 on preventative measures and our lazy-ass MMA regulators let them.
    I blame the last 3 presidents for this. The government, during the Clinton, Bush, and Obama years, stopped regulating the oil industry, or at least greatly reduced regulation. What drugs were they all taking? Did they really believe those BP commercials on TV, you know, the ones which claimed that BP actually gave a damn about the environment?

    Why did the spill happen? There can be only one answer - Pure, unadulterated greed, and our very own government was absolutely complicit in this. Heads need to roll. Now you can blame Clinton and Bush all you want, but Clinton and Bush are no longer in power. Obama is, and this is happening right now, on HIS watch. It is Obama's head that should roll first, and then it will be time to roll the heads of everyone else involved in this disgrace.
    Last edited by danarhea; 05-30-10 at 05:52 PM.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

  5. #25
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 09:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,067

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak



    Question: Why isn't a demolition crew being sent in to seal the leak the old fashioned way? Does that not work with underwater drilling?

    Just asking.

    This whole situation including the government's handling of it is sickening.

    I am wondering why they can't shove some epanding foam down the hole and let it expand or and inflatable bladder down a pipe and expand the bladder with water to plug the hole and then seal it with cement. Of course I am no engieneer and I do not know how those thigs would work that deep, but it sounds like a better than idea than just hoping a box or tophat can stop the leak.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  6. #26
    Mildly Hostile
    505's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    New Mexico
    Last Seen
    11-20-17 @ 03:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,363

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am wondering why they can't shove some epanding foam down the hole and let it expand or and inflatable bladder down a pipe and expand the bladder with water to plug the hole and then seal it with cement. Of course I am no engieneer and I do not know how those thigs would work that deep, but it sounds like a better than idea than just hoping a box or tophat can stop the leak.
    It is because of the suspected location of the actual leak. Several thousand feet down, the production casing is ruptured. This means that the oil can flow up between the production casing and the outer casing. Normally a blow out will travel between the drill string and the production casing, which is easier to catch in the annular of the BOP. Complicating things further is the fact that there was still 8000+ feet of drill string in the well, with no drill bit on the end. This makes it essentially an open pipe at the bottom. Since the shear rams on the BOP did not completely sever the drill string and close, there is also oil coming out of the drill string. Very very difficult situation here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I was wondering why they can't service the BOP's seals, refill it's hydraulics and then activate it. I mean the damn thing tried to close, it just couldn't because of a leak. I'm no engineer but it seems to me that a hydraulic leak on a piece of equipment should be faster/better/cheaper than plugging the well.
    The annular seal that was damaged during drilling is not something you can go in and service while the BOP is in it's current state. Also, the shear rams that were supposed to cut the drill string and then seal failed, apparently because they tried to sever the pipe at one of the joints (which it is not designed to do).

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Alternatively, BOPs are designed to stack on top of each other. Can't they attach another BOP unit to this stack and flip the switch?
    The concern with this here is that nobody knows what the runaway flow has done to further weaken the BOP. If another were stacked on top and then closed, the extreme pressures that would build up inside of the original BOP could make it fail completely, making the leak astronomically worse. In an even worse case scenario, since there is little confidence in the cement job, the entire production casing could get blown out of the well (along with both BOP's), and now you have a GIANT hole spewing a unrestricted flow from the reservoir.

    LMRP cap has potential, but after they cut off the damaged riser, getting it on there will be like trying to attach a slip fitting onto a firehose while it is blasting full force. This will not fully end until the relief wells are complete and the runaway well is cemented at the reservoir ceiling.
    Disclaimer: If you are offended by the above post, and you aren't a SJW or truther, grow a pair.

  7. #27
    Educating the Ignorant
    zimmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:04 AM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    14,484
    Blog Entries
    12

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Easier said than done. You do realize that the pressure of the hydrocarbons coming out of that well is thousands of pounds per square inch, don't you?
    Of course easier said than done. Any fool would know that.... so...
    I was merely mocking The Alinsky Trained Agitator at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.



    .
    Last edited by zimmer; 05-31-10 at 07:01 AM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

  8. #28
    Educating the Ignorant
    zimmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:04 AM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    14,484
    Blog Entries
    12

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    How so?

    Please, explain the logic of that statement. Be sure to include links that back up the 'thought process' you used to reach that conclusion.
    The problem is the depth of the accident.
    It is more difficult to cap gushers at the depth they're drilling than if it were on land or in shallow waters.

    Doesn't it make sense?
    If not, why don't you explain the logic as to why it would not be so.

    For example, if you have a bathtub that is 50 meters deep, it is more difficult to pull the plug than one at 2 feet.
    Unless of course you are half otter.

    We have a lot to thank enviromaniacs and their enablers for.
    Inability to access easier oil.
    Blocking the construction of refineries.

    That's just the oil industry.
    Obama wants to bankrupt the coal industry.

    .
    Last edited by zimmer; 05-31-10 at 07:08 AM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

  9. #29
    Educator
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Minnesota
    Last Seen
    10-15-10 @ 08:55 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    718

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The problem is the depth of the accident.
    It is more difficult to cap gushers at the depth they're drilling than if it were on land or in shallow waters.

    Doesn't it make sense?
    If not, why don't you explain the logic as to why it would not be so.



    For example, if you have a bathtub that is 50 meters deep, it is more difficult to pull the plug than one at 2 feet.
    Unless of course you are half otter.

    We have a lot to thank enviromaniacs and their enablers for.
    Inability to access easier oil.
    Blocking the construction of refineries.

    That's just the oil industry.
    Obama wants to bankrupt the coal industry.

    .
    Typical environment destroyer apologist nonsense. Blame everyone EXCEPT the greedy bastards who ACTUALLY DID THE DAMAGE.

  10. #30
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Re: BP announces 'top kill' has failed to stop Gulf oil leak

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Or with Michael Moore and Roseanne Barr???
    Or the Taiwan little leak baseball team.

Page 3 of 8 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •