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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Would you post what part of title 5 is applicable?
    I already provided you with a link to to the applicable part, which is quoted by Bush's attorney. It's not my fault if you chose not to read it.
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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I already provided you with a link to to the applicable part, which is quoted by Bush's attorney. It's not my fault if you chose not to read it.
    Missed it, my bad. Your loss because if you are so lazy as to not want to post it again, you ain't got ****.
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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Missed it, my bad. Your loss because if you are so lazy as to not want to post it again, you ain't got ****.
    That's really going to win the argument for you.... NOT. What wins the argument is Bush's own ethics lawyer, who properly quoted what is applicable, and your failure to read what I posted. Meanwhile, feel free to rant some more about how I ain't got ****. LOL.
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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's really going to win the argument for you.... NOT. What wins the argument is Bush's own ethics lawyer, who properly quoted what is applicable, and your failure to read what I posted. Meanwhile, feel free to rant some more about how I ain't got ****. LOL.
    A lot of people posted title 18, 600 4 or 5 times because someone missed it.... feel free to be lazy and not back up your claim, means nothing to me. 18, 600 seems pretty clear.
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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    A lot of people posted title 18, 600 4 or 5 times because someone missed it.... feel free to be lazy and not back up your claim, means nothing to me. 18, 600 seems pretty clear.
    Oops, my bad. There is more than one thread on this. I posted the link on the other thread. Here it is:

    Legal Ethics Forum: Joe Sestak

    The entry is by Richard Painter, Bush's legal ethics attorney when he was in office.

    Here is his bio.

    From February 2005 to July 2007, he was Associate Counsel to the President in the White House Counsel's office, serving as the chief ethics lawyer for the President, White House employees and senior nominees to Senate-confirmed positions in the Executive Branch. He is a member of the American Law Institute and has been active in the Professional Responsibility Section of the American Bar Association.
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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Oops, my bad. There is more than one thread on this. I posted the link on the other thread. Here it is:

    Legal Ethics Forum: Joe Sestak

    The entry is by Richard Painter, Bush's legal ethics attorney when he was in office.

    Here is his bio.
    Got it, thanx.... so we have a guy with an opinion that goes counter to the law (title 18, 600) and because he was with a Republican administration at one point, we are to believe his interpretation instead of the plain facts of the case and law? (you do know that there are other legal opinions that run counter to your link?)

    Special prosecutor..... it's the only way we'll ever get to the bottom of this...... or a trial of public opinion, that would be a sad commentary of our times and this very transparent President.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Oops, my bad. There is more than one thread on this. I posted the link on the other thread. Here it is:

    Legal Ethics Forum: Joe Sestak

    The entry is by Richard Painter, Bush's legal ethics attorney when he was in office.

    Here is his bio.
    I don't get it Dan. So the Hatch act makes it illegal to hold office and a job with the Federal government at the same time..... I get that.

    What I don't get is how that effects this bribe. Let's say you are running for the office of Senator, and I as President come to you and say that I'll give you a job in Government that pays 200 million a year if you drop out of the race..... is that a crime? Or is it ok because if you accept this bribe you couldn't run for the office anyway.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Got it, thanx.... so we have a guy with an opinion that goes counter to the law (title 18, 600) and because he was with a Republican administration at one point, we are to believe his interpretation instead of the plain facts of the case and law? (you do know that there are other legal opinions that run counter to your link?)

    Special prosecutor..... it's the only way we'll ever get to the bottom of this...... or a trial of public opinion, that would be a sad commentary of our times and this very transparent President.
    What you have is an attorney, who graduated suma cum laude, was Bush's cheif ethics lawyer, who is on the board of the Professional Responsibility Section of the American Bar Association, and whose main specialty happens to be ethics. You can't get much qualified than that. I'll take him over news channel talking heads any day of the week.

    That this is some kind of a crime is a non-issue. On the other hand, Obama's ethics is certainly on the table here, and that is the direction Republicans need to take this if they want to make it an issue.
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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What you have is an attorney, who graduated suma cum laude, was Bush's cheif ethics lawyer, who is on the board of the Professional Responsibility Section of the American Bar Association, and whose main specialty happens to be ethics. You can't get much qualified than that. I'll take him over news channel talking heads any day of the week.

    That this is some kind of a crime is a non-issue. On the other hand, Obama's ethics is certainly on the table here, and that is the direction Republicans need to take this if they want to make it an issue.
    Doesn't matter who he is or what degrees he has, it needs to be looked into by a special prosecutor and the facts, not spin be ascertained. Only then can this be looked at as only an ethics problem. I and a lot of other citizens look at this as more bribery by an administration that finds no problem using our tax dollars to buy outcomes that they couldn't obtain by legal means.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: White House Asked Bill Clinton to Urge Sestak to Drop Out of Senate Race

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I don't get it Dan. So the Hatch act makes it illegal to hold office and a job with the Federal government at the same time..... I get that.

    What I don't get is how that effects this bribe. Let's say you are running for the office of Senator, and I as President come to you and say that I'll give you a job in Government that pays 200 million a year if you drop out of the race..... is that a crime? Or is it ok because if you accept this bribe you couldn't run for the office anyway.
    Dan, I'd love to get your answer to this.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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