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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    If you can prove God doesn't exist feel free to display it
    There's no scientific evidence that God exists which is why it doesn't really require faith to NOT believe. There's also no scientific evidence that Space Monkeys are inhabiting Jupiter, so it's not an act of faith to disbelieve that they exist. Nobody claims proof that God doesn't exist, at least nobody intellectually honest does. God can't be proved scientifically one way or the other.... that's kindof the whole idea of God anyway. That there's something behind those things we can't explain. That there's a point to all of this beyond our understanding. Belief that there is no God is not the same thing as faith that there is no God. There's really no reason to debate semantics here.

    More on-topic, the teacher does not appear to have been "teaching Atheism in class," at least not in the way you think it was happening. Discussing atheism is not the same thing as trying to convert people. If we can't even discuss things academically in school anymore we're pretty screwed because our children are going to have large gaps in their knowledge. There's also some controversy over nuclear energy. Maybe we shouldn't tell our children it exists?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    There's no scientific evidence that God exists which is why it doesn't really require faith to NOT believe. There's also no scientific evidence that Space Monkeys are inhabiting Jupiter, so it's not an act of faith to disbelieve that they exist. Nobody claims proof that God doesn't exist, at least nobody intellectually honest does.
    I understand it makes you unconfortable to accept the facts but that isn't my conscern.

    Of course its an act of faith to believe something doesn't exist without being able to prove it. There is no way you can get around that fact.

    God can't be proved scientifically one way or the other.... that's kindof the whole idea of God anyway. That there's something behind those things we can't explain. That there's a point to all of this beyond our understanding. Belief that there is no God is not the same thing as faith that there is no God. There's really no reason to debate semantics here.
    Yes it is. Both require faith since neither can function on fact.

    Agnostics are the only ones with no religion because they neither believe nor disbelieve.

    More on-topic, the teacher does not appear to have been "teaching Atheism in class," at least not in the way you think it was happening.
    You have zero evidence of that. You are basing conclusions off nothing. We do not know either way since we have no specific information.

    Discussing atheism is not the same thing as trying to convert people. If we can't even discuss things academically in school anymore we're pretty screwed because our children are going to have large gaps in their knowledge. There's also some controversy over nuclear energy. Maybe we shouldn't tell our children it exists?
    As I said which you obviously failed to read discussing atheism is not an issue. Teaching it, is.
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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    Texmaster you are trying to defend this teacher actions, so in other words you do approve of what this teaher did.

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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    What these women did to the atheist teacher was wrong and not what Christ would do.
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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    "Spraying" someone with water ("magic" or not) uninvited, is called battery, by law. As such, the violators should have been arrested for their crime and prosecuted.

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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    "Spraying" someone with water ("magic" or not) uninvited, is called battery, by law. As such, the violators should have been arrested for their crime and prosecuted.

    I watched the video. I seriously doubt we have full information on exactly what happened. The Christian teachers deny spraying her with anything.

    My question is this: if a Christian teacher is not allowed to expound upon her beliefs to a classroom full of public school children, why would an atheist teacher be allowed to do so? If we allow the one, we must allow the other.

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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I watched the video. I seriously doubt we have full information on exactly what happened. The Christian teachers deny spraying her with anything.

    My question is this: if a Christian teacher is not allowed to expound upon her beliefs to a classroom full of public school children, why would an atheist teacher be allowed to do so? If we allow the one, we must allow the other.
    If it is found out that the atheist teacher was trying to turn her students to atheism I would expect either the principal or school board to do something about it. However if she was teaching about atheism then I think those in charge will have to look at what she was saying to determine if a punishment should be handed down. Either way it does not excuse the Christian teacher to do what she did and she also deserves the punishment she has been given.

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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I watched the video. I seriously doubt we have full information on exactly what happened. The Christian teachers deny spraying her with anything.

    My question is this: if a Christian teacher is not allowed to expound upon her beliefs to a classroom full of public school children, why would an atheist teacher be allowed to do so? If we allow the one, we must allow the other.
    A Christian teacher can discuss Christianity.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post

    You have zero evidence of that. You are basing conclusions off nothing. We do not know either way since we have no specific information.

    As I said which you obviously failed to read discussing atheism is not an issue. Teaching it, is.
    You don't have any evidence she was "teaching" atheism either. So, aren't you also "basing conclusions off of nothing?"
    Me, I'm basing my conclusion off what the teacher said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Teachers suspended for spraying non-Christian teacher w/ squirt bottle

    The TEA PARTY: We support the constitution! (or a version of the document void of legal precedent, federal law, and common sense)

    Look, it wasn't a movie house, and they were throwing water not fire, so it's covered, right?

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