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    NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Angry relatives of 9/11 victims last night clashed with supporters of a planned mosque near Ground Zero at a raucous community-board hearing in Manhattan.

    After four hours of public debate, members of Community Board 1 finally voted 29-1 in support of the project. Nine members abstained, arguing that they wanted to table the issue and vote at a later date.

    The board has no official say over whether the estimated $100 million mosque and community center gets built. But the panel's support, or lack of it, is considered important in influencing public opinion.

    Read more: Ground Zero mosque plan has backers and detractors as community board votes to support plan - NYPOST.com


    Completely disrespectful considering the motivation of the terrorists and disregarding the feelings of the victim's families.

    Ground Zero mosque plan has backers and detractors as community board votes to support plan - NYPOST.com
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    If christian nutjobs had blown up the twin towers, would you be against building a church near Ground Zero?

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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If christian nutjobs had blown up the twin towers, would you be against building a church near Ground Zero?
    Good point. How about a church near the building that was blown up in Oklahoma City?
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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    I don't believe the city has a right to decide what a private owner decides to do with his or her land. This is just another example of the government deciding that we are too stupid to have our own land because the government knows better than we do.

    Why look at the new WTC in NYC they have managed after 9 or 10 years to build a large hole that cost over 11 billion dollars

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    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Good point. How about a church near the building that was blown up in Oklahoma City?
    Did a little bit of google mapping, turns out there are about 7 churches in the immediate vicinity of the Oklahoma City National Memorial‎ and hundreds of churches in the surrounding areas. Well guess we better tear them down.

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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    The Muslims building the mosque near the WTC have every right to do so. If they bought the property and own it then the government has no say in the matter. People and religious groups have the right to sovereignly own their property. However, I do think this was an arrogant and foolish decision at the hands of those building the mosque to place it near the WTC. Many will see it as a spiteful action and highly disrespectful regardless of the Muslim community's intent. It is a stupid decision to build the mosque there, but they have the freedom to make that stupid decision.
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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If christian nutjobs had blown up the twin towers, would you be against building a church near Ground Zero?
    Self professed radical Christians bent on killing American's and ending our way of life, who video tape themselves and have in the past blown themselves up in the hopes of taking innocent passers buy out with them? Absolutely.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Good point. How about a church near the building that was blown up in Oklahoma City?
    What Church was McVeigh part of and if the rest of the church believed or believes still as he does ... no Church near Oklahoma City.

    The problem with your little hypotheticals is it's a little more difficult to find Christians blowing people up. Why not ask about the killings of the abotion clinics, or their blowing up, fires, etc. I think you'd find most if not all would condemn such acts. Let me know when members of that same Church is going to be build next to an Abortion clinic.

    I have no problem with a mosque being built in NYC - I just have a problem with it being put so close to ground zero. If the group who wants to build this wants to promote outreach - they should outreach to their brethren who are continuing to plan and execute bombings and terrorist activities in the name of Islam.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Angry relatives of 9/11 victims last night clashed with supporters of a planned mosque near Ground Zero at a raucous community-board hearing in Manhattan.

    After four hours of public debate, members of Community Board 1 finally voted 29-1 in support of the project. Nine members abstained, arguing that they wanted to table the issue and vote at a later date.

    The board has no official say over whether the estimated $100 million mosque and community center gets built. But the panel's support, or lack of it, is considered important in influencing public opinion.

    Read more: Ground Zero mosque plan has backers and detractors as community board votes to support plan - NYPOST.com


    Completely disrespectful considering the motivation of the terrorists and disregarding the feelings of the victim's families.

    Ground Zero mosque plan has backers and detractors as community board votes to support plan - NYPOST.com
    It can be as disrespectful as it wants. It doesn't matter. Legally, we can't do anything about it. Not without violating our own integrity and resolve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    I don't believe the city has a right to decide what a private owner decides to do with his or her land.
    Believe me, developing property of any kind is a nightmare.

    Bureaucrats are slow, uncooperative, and you have to go through dozens of departments to get to the starting line. That being the point where you turn the first shovel of dirt. You are at their mercy. The waiting game unfortunately bankrupts some people.

    I listened to some guys that developed land in the 50's years back... oh those were the days.

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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Believe me, developing property of any kind is a nightmare.

    Bureaucrats are slow, uncooperative, and you have to go through dozens of departments to get to the starting line. That being the point where you turn the first shovel of dirt. You are at their mercy. The waiting game unfortunately bankrupts some people.

    I listened to some guys that developed land in the 50's years back... oh those were the days.

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    And that is one of the biggest reasons bureaucrats don't deserve a say to what happens on private land. They don't care about speed because they will always have a source of income but many private businesses and such don't have unlimited wealth.....

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