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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So how big a "no-muslim zone" is appropriate?
    I answered that already.

    And its not a no Muslim zone. Its a no Mosque zone. Please be more careful in your reading.
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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    It's private land and they have the right to do so.

    However, it's tacky and incredibly stupid. A decision like this may invoke some serious vandalism in the wee hours of the morning with many blind eyes watching.

    When you do something idiotic and unpopular, prepare for a backlash, even if you are legally within the right.

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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    I can't pretend that I don't understand why people would feel sensitive about this, because I do, but at the same time the property owner has a right to build a mosque there if they want to.

    I do think that the mosque better have some good security setup though.

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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    I hope the people who are building the mosque know what they are getting themselves into. But it does not really seem this mosque has any ties to an extremist group so I don't really see what the big deal is.

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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    One, I think this is unwise and poor tact on the part of the Mosque.

    Two, ultimately its private property. These people have a right to protest and urge it not to happen, but so too do the people trying to build the mosque have a right to build it there if they secure the land.

    Three, comparing McVeigh and churches to this is incredibly ignorant and obviously just grasping for straws to try and go "See, see, hypocrites!" McVeigh faith had seemingly very little to do with the bombing, with his motivation instead being the governments intrusion on private individual abilities to worship (indeed, in one case individuals a Christian would probably not care for too greatly as they were essentially a cult) and the government in general. Contrast this with 9/11 which was conducted by people clearly influenced heavily by their religion, who committed suicide for the cause due to their religious beliefs, and who were connected to a group whose purpose and goals are rooted in its religious beliefs. Are these beliefs a very extreme, very foundamentalist, and some say very twisted version of that religion? Sure, but ultimately it was inexplicably tied to the religion, as even their disagreements with our government is rooted in their religious beliefs. So yes, while I would say its incredibly insensitive and tactless to build a Mosque at such a place it is in no way similar to a church going up near the OKC building.

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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    obviously just grasping for straws to try and go "See, see, hypocrites!"
    I have to agree. There has been too much of that in these forums lately.
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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I answered that already.

    And its not a no Muslim zone. Its a no Mosque zone. Please be more careful in your reading.
    You know six blocks is pretty huge when it comes to NYC right?

    Not to mention the whole "gross infringement upon property rights" that you guys are supposed to be against.
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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You know six blocks is pretty huge when it comes to NYC right?

    Not to mention the whole "gross infringement upon property rights" that you guys are supposed to be against.
    Should they be allowed to build it? Yes. Is it extremely distasteful and disrespectful to do so? Absolutely.

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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I oppose the new location of the mosque — they should put it on top of the new world trade center and commemorate the memory of the many innocent Muslims who were murdered there on 9/11. Clearly many Americans don't understand the difference between Islam and the vicious ideology preached by Al Qaeda and such a mosque might help us to appreciate the distinction.
    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Oh yes. Let's just ignore what the Qur'an actually says and what millions of Muslims are taught. Because some are good we should just ignore the motivations of the others.

    Anyone who actually thought about this and took into account the victim's families feelings wouldn't say something so ignorant.
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    Re: NYers wage jihad vs. WTC mosque

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Should they be allowed to build it? Yes. Is it extremely distasteful and disrespectful to do so? Absolutely.
    Only if you make the "muslim = terrorist" link.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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