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Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

bull**** and you can't point to a single study that supports that rediculus theory of yours.

I really am growing tired of these crap claims without scientific backing in even say 75% of the supposed group they effect.

Yeah...hey don't bother challenging anyone for sources in a fake attempt to want to deepen the level of debate when you can't even be bothered to do a simple Google search on your own.

This is from the first page, I mean how easy is it.....

Freeing transexuality from taboo: Study

The research was carried out on DNA samples of 112 male-to-female transsexuals, which were compared with the samples from 250 men. The team constituting of American and Australian scientists say, “It is known that longer versions of the androgen receptor gene are associated with less efficient testosterone signaling and this reduction in the action of the male sex hormone may have an effect on gender development in the womb and contributes to the female gender identity of male to female transsexuals.”
 
I've never seen so much transphobia in one concentrated place in my life. This whole thread is just an unjustified hatefest.
 
You're off your nut.

It's an accepted medical condition and sex reassignment surgery after at least one year of supervision with a psychologist to assure there are no additional mental disorders is the accepted treatment.

Why are you an expert?

Are you a doctor? Are you a therapist?

If so, then please - by all means - share. If you're not, STFU.

Why must you barge your way into other people's lives?

I thought you were for liberty and freedom. It's proof of your hypocrisy that you feel the need to inject your opinion into people's lives who have done you no harm, not restricted your rights in the least - but you feel the need to insult them and tell them what you think of them.

Why are you so superior that you get to decide for others?

The POINT to it. Show us the medical text. Show us the studies that claim it is traced back to a medical condition found in all of transsexuals.

I'll be generous. Find any study that finds it in just 75% of all transsexuals.
 
I've never seen so much transphobia in one concentrated place in my life. This whole thread is just an unjustified hatefest.






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Calling a fiero a fiero and not a lamborgini is not a hate fest. You are free to do all the body modification at your dime you want.


If you want to dress act, look like a chick, and modify your body in the process be my guest.....



Don't care.



What I would have a problem with, would be if you decided not to tell a hetero sexual male that you were once man.



Have fun at whatever it is that you want to be. :thumbs:
 
Yeah...hey don't bother challenging anyone for sources in a fake attempt to want to deepen the level of debate when you can't even be bothered to do a simple Google search on your own.

This is from the first page, I mean how easy is it.....

Freeing transexuality from taboo: Study

LOL And if you actually read the "study"

“We think these genetic differences might reduce testosterone action and under-masculinise the brain during foetal development. There is a social stigma that transsexual is simply a lifestyle choice. However, our findings support a biological basis of how gender identity develops.”


Once again reading helps. This is so true of so many studies on this subject. Someone reads the headline and doesn't look at facts.

Hint: We "think" and "might" is not scientific backing. Its theory.
 
I'm including them both together as they are both introducing inapplicable comparisons.

Only because you say so. You offer no real proof. You asked a question and got an answer and now your ranting and raving about crap I never even did. There are in fact people who claim to be other animals trapped in human form. There are those who go to extreme lengths in changing their body around to match the animal they feel is inside them. Many claim to have always felt that way.

If you didn't want the answer, you shouldn't have asked the question.
 
I've never seen so much transphobia in one concentrated place in my life. This whole thread is just an unjustified hatefest.

LOL transphobia? Is this the new age term?

I've never seen so many people with factphobia supporting this ridiculous theory. :2wave:
 
I want to be a Jewfin

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In all seriousness...um...shocker, government won't pay to get you titties. Shocking I know.
 
I must admit. The Good Reverend is not up to speed on this topic.... :lol:



But.....



Gender | Define Gender at Dictionary.com


2. sex: the feminine gender.

From your link:
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  1. Either the male or female division of a species, esp. as differentiated with reference to the reproductive functions.
  2. The sum of the structural and functional differences by which the male and female are distinguished, or the phenomena or behavior dependent on these differences.
  3. The instinct or attraction drawing one sex toward another, or its manifestation in life and conduct.

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  1. a set of classes that together include all nouns, membership in a particular class being shown by the form of the noun itself or by the form or choice of words that modify, replace, or otherwise refer to the noun

"The feminine gender" =/= "female of the species". There are women who are "one of the guys" just as their are weak girly men.

"She/Her" =/= "female of the species", but what social group one belongs to. An effeminate or metro-sexual male who most identifies with an all female pier group will be referred to by that group as, and self identify as, 'one of the girls'. This is no way means that his born sex has changed or that he thinks his body is female. Gender regards identity only.

As it relates to transsexuals:

Gender reassignment surgery is not an attempt to change the born sex from male to female.

It is an attempt to help the individual adjust into the class/group they most identify with.
 
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So if i refer to you from now on a "what you talking bout girlfriend" I reasigned your gender? o_O
 
True, and I believe they do.

The "idiots" part: These people are obviously not "normal" everyday boring folks you pass on the streets. If you see something out of the ordinary it usually catches your attention... whether it is a stunningly beautiful woman, a hugely fat individual, or trannies.

Of course you notice when something is out of the ordinary but that does not give you the right to stare or act rude. I think what transsexuals wants from us is nothing more than being treated like everyone else.

I recall seeing a group of transsexuals in Malmo some 25-years ago. These trannies were about 6 ft. tall and looked like they came out of the old Bud Lite Ladies Nite commercial. Is it any wonder everyone and their dog stared? That they drew attention from all?

That's life.

YouTube- Bud LIght "Ladies Night"

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Many transgendered people are in dire need of some fashion advice and draws unwanted attention to themselves because of it - I agree on that.
 
Only because you say so. You offer no real proof. You asked a question and got an answer and now your ranting and raving about crap I never even did. There are in fact people who claim to be other animals trapped in human form. There are those who go to extreme lengths in changing their body around to match the animal they feel is inside them. Many claim to have always felt that way.

If you didn't want the answer, you shouldn't have asked the question.

People who believe they're animals don't have anything to do with what we're talking about, so....when you have an argument, please present it.
 
Here's the thing about trans people. Which not only includes Male to Female, but Female to Male. Many trans people go through transition and when their done, most likely they will pass as the gender that they transitioned to be. Most of them don't even tell people of their past life, and just go on living their life. Now for the ones that don't pass, are often the ones who transition later on in life, are the ones for people to see, and thus giving all trans people this bad image.
 
So if i refer to you from now on a "what you talking bout girlfriend" I reasigned your gender? o_O

You will have made a token effort, yes. Now whether you'd be attempting humor or actually trying to increase your herrim is a matter of how you intend to apply that reassignment effort.
 
Of course you notice when something is out of the ordinary but that does not give you the right to stare or act rude. I think what transsexuals wants from us is nothing more than being treated like everyone else.
Well, I will disagree. You can stare, and you can be rude.
Not nice, not my reaction, but that's life.

The other problem is many are not like everybody else... they are noticeably different, like the bearded woman at the circus.

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A transsexual's brain is physically wired as a woman. That's why it can't be "cured". It's literally a woman's brain in a man's body.

Jerry,

This poses a directionality problem. Was the male born with a female brain chemistry, or was the female brain chemistry the result of somatization or psychosomatic processes?

Unless we have examined these individuals from birth, there is no way to establish a causal relationship between the two variables in question.
 
You will have made a token effort, yes. Now whether you'd be attempting humor or actually trying to increase your herrim is a matter of how you intend to apply that reassignment effort.





I'm good brother..... I have enough fillies in my stable. :shock: :pimpdaddy::2razz:
 
LOL And if you actually read the "study"

“We think these genetic differences might reduce testosterone action and under-masculinise the brain during foetal development. There is a social stigma that transsexual is simply a lifestyle choice. However, our findings support a biological basis of how gender identity develops.”


Once again reading helps. This is so true of so many studies on this subject. Someone reads the headline and doesn't look at facts.

Hint: We "think" and "might" is not scientific backing. Its theory.

Good effort, but here's an example of an intelligent reply:

Jerry,

This poses a directionality problem. Was the male born with a female brain chemistry, or was the female brain chemistry the result of somatization or psychosomatic processes?

Unless we have examined these individuals from birth, there is no way to establish a causal relationship between the two variables in question.

That post takes it to the next level and requires that I step up my game to mach.
 
People who believe they're animals don't have anything to do with what we're talking about, so....when you have an argument, please present it.

Again, you brought it up. You asked the question. You seem damned right pissy that someone answered it. And they don't have anything to do with what we're talking about only because you're desperately trying to define it that way.

As I see it people are born some way. Human male, human female for the most part. However, some people feel that they are men in a female body or vice versa and claim to have felt such a way from a very young age. Some people claim they are another species in a human body and claim to have felt such a way from a very young age. It's basically the same thing. People feeling uncomfortable or out of place with their born positions.

But regardless, you can take that smarmy attitude of yours and cram it with walnuts because everything I've brought up that you've been bitching so heavily about was initially introduced by YOU. It's time for you to quit being stupid. Don't ask questions if you don't want them answered.
 
Why should British tax payers pay for a transexual to have cosmetic surgery? The UK made the right decision when they denied to pay for his/hers surgery.
 
Why should British tax payers pay for a transexual to have cosmetic surgery? The UK made the right decision when they denied to pay for his/hers surgery.

For this case, with the breast augmentation I can see why they would deny her coverage. But for other trans related expenses, such as hormones, therapy , and SRS(Sexual Reassignment surgery) I think they should provide coverage. Seeing as transgenderism is a document medical disorder.

And its her, not his/hers, that type of language is highly disrespectful.
 
And its her, not his/hers, that type of language is highly disrespectful.

I think it's disrespectful to berate one for exercising free speech. So I guess we'll both have to learn to deal with it.
 
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