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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Hypocrite and retard here

    Can you link to an example of someone being born with a condition where they think they are another species? I'll bet that if you can, we don't have a way for them to function in society. The same can not be said for transsexuals.

    It's a disorder, but we can't cure it. What we can do is help that person live a happy and productive life.

    Are you trying to say that these mentally ill people did not have jobs, personal lives or anything else before they went to some quack and a corrupt greedy doctor to mutilate and modify them to give them the appearance of something they are not? Last I checked most quacks do not work for free, greedy corrupt plastic surgeons do not work for free, so that mentally ill individual must have went to school, had a life in order to get the education that allowed him to get a job so that he can have money to see that quack and get plastic surgery.
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    It's also not decency to judge someone whom you don't even know just because your personal views clash with their chosen lifestyle. I also love people who touts a knowledge psychological issues like they are somehow a professional and can just dole out diagnosis on random people that they don't even know.
    So if someone claims they are a dolphin because they feel that way you would support it?

    And since you can't find a genetic link to this claim of gender identity, psychological issues are the only other cause but feel free to make up, I mean suggest your own.
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So if someone claims they are a dolphin because they feel that way you would support it?
    And once again you are comparing two different issues that have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

    And since you can't find a genetic link to this claim of gender identity, psychological issues are the only other cause but feel free to make up, I mean suggest your own.
    I'm also not the one claiming that I'm an expert in psychological issues and can diagnose people at the drop of a hat. Let's see some proof to back up your assertions.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You can actually. There's **** about people thinking they should have been a wolf or something instead of a human.
    That's not something they're born with, though... right? There are many cases of children conditioned to behave like animals: http://www.debatepolitics.com/newrep...y&p=1058772840

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    That's not something they're born with, though... right? There are many cases of children conditioned to behave like animals: http://www.debatepolitics.com/newrep...y&p=1058772840
    I'm not quite sure. I saw a show about it once where they went into the whole furry scene. Now the one's who really think they're different animals are just a subsection of that entire group; but they showed like some dude who really thought he was a wolf in a man's body. Is it something from birth? I don't know, I think maybe they claim so.
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Are you trying to say that these mentally ill people did not have jobs, personal lives or anything else before they went to some quack and a corrupt greedy doctor to mutilate and modify them to give them the appearance of something they are not? Last I checked most quacks do not work for free, greedy corrupt plastic surgeons do not work for free, so that mentally ill individual must have went to school, had a life in order to get the education that allowed him to get a job so that he can have money to see that quack and get plastic surgery.
    I got scholarships just for being left handed. I imagine there are similar programs for transsexual folks.

    My father in-law has advanced AIDS. He can't work, yet somehow he still finds a way to get is $5,000 per month medications. According to you he must therefore be a secret millionaire, because there's no other way to get medical treatment except to pay for it out of pocket.

    Well, I'll tell you how he receives his $5,000 per month medications: He volunteers for research programs. He gets his medications and other AIDS related treatment from the research institute.

    When my sister had brain cancer, she was an up-start locksmith with about $2,000 in assets and $50 in her pocket. According to you the only way she could have paid for her surgery was to be a secret millionaire.

    Well, she went and found a medical school who was willing to perform the surgery and 3 years of post-op for free. They even covered her travel expenses.

    The couple trannys I've known did the same thing. They find medical schools who offer free or reduced care, and programs which offer to pay for all or part of the procedure.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So if someone claims they are a dolphin because they feel that way you would support it?
    You must be unaware of the extensive diagnosis process involved in determining if someone is truly a transsexual.

    No, we don't believe it simply because they say so. We believe it because they have an incredibly long history of this disorder manifesting, and hours of psychological diagnostic analysis.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Regicollis View Post
    They should be free to hang out where ever everyone else does.

    But yes, Christiania is one of the places were people don't act like idiots around transsexuals.
    True, and I believe they do.

    The "idiots" part: These people are obviously not "normal" everyday boring folks you pass on the streets. If you see something out of the ordinary it usually catches your attention... whether it is a stunningly beautiful woman, a hugely fat individual, or trannies.

    I recall seeing a group of transsexuals in Malmo some 25-years ago. These trannies were about 6 ft. tall and looked like they came out of the old Bud Lite Ladies Nite commercial. Is it any wonder everyone and their dog stared? That they drew attention from all?

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not quite sure. I saw a show about it once where they went into the whole furry scene. Now the one's who really think they're different animals are just a subsection of that entire group; but they showed like some dude who really thought he was a wolf in a man's body. Is it something from birth? I don't know, I think maybe they claim so.
    Like real homosexuality, transsexualism is a condition one is born with.

    If an otherwise perfectly healthy boy is raised by only women, he will still see himself as a boy, not a girl.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Like real homosexuality, transsexualism is a condition one is born with.

    If an otherwise perfectly healthy boy is raised by only women, he will still see himself as a boy, not a girl.
    I wasn't making claim counter to that. I was merely stating that I had seen something where people did claim to be the wrong species.
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