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Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

For this case, with the breast augmentation I can see why they would deny her coverage. But for other trans related expenses, such as hormones, therapy , and SRS(Sexual Reassignment surgery) I think they should provide coverage. Seeing as transgenderism is a document medical disorder.

And its her, not his/hers, that type of language is highly disrespectful.

How is transgenderism a documented medical disorder? The surgery is a cosmetic one and in no way is required to save a life or correct a medical condition.
 
I think it's disrespectful to berate one for exercising free speech. So I guess we'll both have to learn to deal with it.

Degrading someone's own identity is hate speech. Yeah, its free speech, but I don't support any form of hate speech.

How is transgenderism a documented medical disorder? The surgery is a cosmetic one and in no way is required to save a life or correct a medical condition.

I'm sorry, Gender Identity Disorder, is the correct medical term. It has varying degree's of severity, but it most cases if left untreated it can lead to depression, and in some cases suicide.
 
Eh, I normally am all about equality and stuff. But trannies nowadays should not be allowed for any surgery cuz they really can fool a person on how they were born.
 
Degrading someone's own identity is hate speech. Yeah, its free speech, but I don't support any form of hate speech.



I'm sorry, Gender Identity Disorder, is the correct medical term. It has varying degree's of severity, but it most cases if left untreated it can lead to depression, and in some cases suicide.





So wait. this is a disorder and the "Cure" is to operate and remove add parts? :doh
 
Degrading someone's own identity is hate speech. Yeah, its free speech, but I don't support any form of hate speech.
I don't hate this person, I was just confused on how to address her.
I'm sorry, Gender Identity Disorder, is the correct medical term. It has varying degree's of severity, but it most cases if left untreated it can lead to depression, and in some cases suicide.
It is not a physical disorder but a mental one. Regardless, the state should never pay for a cosmetic procedures like undergoing transgenderal surgery or hormone treatment. Honestly, someone with gender identity disorder should receive mental therapy to help them identify with the gender they were born as, I would think it to be more damaging to treat them through surgeries. I think people have the right to undergo cosmetic surgeries (even if I don't support it), but the fact is that becoming transgendered renders someone infertile and can never truly change a man into a woman and visa versa. They aren't correcting a mental disorder by changing one's gender. They are mutilating a man's genitals and body to have the appearance of a woman. This should never be an approved therapy for gender identity disorder. People should have the right to this surgery, but it should never be used to treat a mental disorder nor should taxpayers have to pay for it.
 
Eh, I normally am all about equality and stuff. But trannies nowadays should not be allowed for any surgery cuz they really can fool a person on how they were born.

"I'm not racist but those n*****s shouldn't be able to vote."
 
"I'm not racist but those n*****s shouldn't be able to vote."




So you are comparing the civil rights struggle of black folk to girl who want to be boys and boys who want to be girls?


Am I reading this correctly?
 
Good effort, but here's an example of an intelligent reply:



That post takes it to the next level and requires that I step up my game to mach.

You can belittle my response all you want it wont change the fact that you produced a theory not a factual study.
 
Degrading someone's own identity is hate speech. Yeah, its free speech, but I don't support any form of hate speech.

Well we have freedom of speech, so that means even hate speech. You can't whitewash people's thinking processes to fit whatever pre-designed mold you think it should fall into. I support all forms of hate speech because people need to get over themselves. Bunch of ****ing monkeys running around like they're king of the world.
 
"I'm not racist but those n*****s shouldn't be able to vote."

well now you just id'ed yourself as a racist which is a lot worse then disliking males who want to be women just to make money off guys horniness. I am talking about hoes anyways, many prostitutes in red light districts are men who have had surgery to make them look female and it is very effective.
 
I don't hate this person, I was just confused on how to address her.

It is not a physical disorder but a mental one. Regardless, the state should never pay for a cosmetic procedures like undergoing transgenderal surgery or hormone treatment. Honestly, someone with gender identity disorder should receive mental therapy to help them identify with the gender they were born as, I would think it to be more damaging to treat them through surgeries. I think people have the right to undergo cosmetic surgeries (even if I don't support it), but the fact is that becoming transgendered renders someone infertile and can never truly change a man into a woman and visa versa. They aren't correcting a mental disorder by changing one's gender. They are mutilating a man's genitals and body to have the appearance of a woman. This should never be an approved therapy for gender identity disorder. People should have the right to this surgery, but it should never be used to treat a mental disorder nor should taxpayers have to pay for it.

They've tried that, and some therapist still do try to get people to conform to the gender role they were born with. But it just doesn't work. It is a mental disorder, and the only way to treat it is to change to the gender they truly are. Transwomen,and transmen, aren't men pretending to women, and women pretending to be men. They are who they are, it's just that simple.

Also, it's false that they can't reproduce, transwomen can put their sperm in a spermbank, and transmen can have their eggs frozen. So it is possible for them to reproduce.
 
How is transgenderism a documented medical disorder? The surgery is a cosmetic one and in no way is required to save a life or correct a medical condition.

Transexualism - Gender Identity Disorder Medical Information

What is going on in the body?

Gender identity disorder is a profound disturbance of a person's sense of sexual identity. This disorder can begin as early as 2 years of age.

What are the causes and risks of the condition?

Gender identity disorder occurs more often in males than in females. No one knows what causes this disorder. Some theories suggest the disorder may be caused by:
  • chromosomal abnormality
  • imbalances in hormones
  • problems with early parent-child bonding
  • harmful child-rearing practices
 
You can belittle my response all you want it wont change the fact that you produced a theory not a factual study.

Even if that's true, I've produced more than you have, so until you bother to step it up yourself I won't head your requests.
 
Well what kind of savage nation won't even pay for fake breasts for men who want to be girls? :ssst:
:rofl

What next? Maybe the govt should use taxpayer money to pay for Madonna's plastic surgeries.

I think this freak should be imprisoned just for wasting people's time. I wouldn't mind my taxpayer money being used to throw him in a cell with the Aryan Brotherhood. After a month of that, then maybe he'd realize just how fine and dandy his life is even without fake tits.
 
Again, you brought it up. You asked the question. You seem damned right pissy that someone answered it. And they don't have anything to do with what we're talking about only because you're desperately trying to define it that way.

As I see it people are born some way. Human male, human female for the most part. However, some people feel that they are men in a female body or vice versa and claim to have felt such a way from a very young age. Some people claim they are another species in a human body and claim to have felt such a way from a very young age. It's basically the same thing. People feeling uncomfortable or out of place with their born positions.

But regardless, you can take that smarmy attitude of yours and cram it with walnuts because everything I've brought up that you've been bitching so heavily about was initially introduced by YOU. It's time for you to quit being stupid. Don't ask questions if you don't want them answered.

.........:coffeepap.........
 
"I'm not racist but those n*****s shouldn't be able to vote."
Fail. :doh

Maybe the govt should buy me a Ferrari with your taxpayer money. "Oh, I've always been a Ferrari guy - it's who I am. So I NEED a Ferrari in order to feel complete. The govt has to pay for one, or else it's a violation of my right to pursue happiness!!!"

:rofl
 
Transexualism - Gender Identity Disorder Medical Information

What is going on in the body?

Gender identity disorder is a profound disturbance of a person's sense of sexual identity. This disorder can begin as early as 2 years of age.

What are the causes and risks of the condition?

Gender identity disorder occurs more often in males than in females. No one knows what causes this disorder. Some theories suggest the disorder may be caused by:
  • chromosomal abnormality
  • imbalances in hormones
  • problems with early parent-child bonding
  • harmful child-rearing practices
Yes, it's a mental disorder. This guy needs a shrink. He shouldn't be allowed to feed his psychosis with taxpayer dollars.
 
For this case, with the breast augmentation I can see why they would deny him coverage. But for other trans related expenses, such as hormones, therapy , and SRS(Sexual Reassignment surgery) I think they should provide coverage. Seeing as transgenderism is a document medical disorder.

And its him, not her
Fixed. :)

, that type of language is highly disrespectful.
Grow a pair. I can call myself Godzilla if I want, or claim that I'm Godzilla "trapped in a guy's body" but it'll never be true. Deal with reality. The guy's a he, for a scientific fact.
 
Fail. :doh

Maybe the govt should buy me a Ferrari with your taxpayer money. "Oh, I've always been a Ferrari guy - it's who I am. So I NEED a Ferrari in order to feel complete. The govt has to pay for one, or else it's a violation of my right to pursue happiness!!!"

:rofl

He was saying they shouldn't be allowed to get the surgery. I never claimed the taxpayer should pay for it.

Edit: To clarify. The man I quoted thinks we should ban people from getting surgery because he thinks it's icky. It might "fool him." So it should be illegal.
 
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So now the libertarian is arguing about which things we should allow people to do?




read up if you want to see my actual position. I was simply asking you a question and your assumption, is fail.


If it's a disorder, is it moral for doctors to operate on them?


what if they thought thier heart was broken and needed it removed?
 
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