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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When you're talking about "sex", absolutely.

    Gender has nothing to do with your physical sex.
    You can't change your gender with surgery. Your biological makup cannot be changed no matter how you justify it in your mind.
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I don't see why "bravery" is relevant? There are many things I can think of that require an "incredible amount of personal bravery" -- some I celebrate, some I despise.
    In the process of assuming the other gender, transsexuals have to accomplish various steps in living as that gender. One step is coming out at work. Yes, that takes an incredible amount of bravery.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You can't change your gender with surgery. Your biological makup cannot be changed no matter how you justify it in your mind.
    T'is true, otherwise the Olympics would allow transtesticles and those that had reverse add-a-dick-to-me's compete against women.

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    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    WTF is going on with your avatar?
    It's a picture from a Russian artist friend of mine who made it in tribute to the recent subconjunctival hemorrhage in my right eye.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    T'is true, otherwise the Olympics would allow transtesticles and those that had reverse add-a-dick-to-me's compete against women.

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    An excellent point.
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    An excellent point.
    Made in a horribly crude and insulting way...
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes, that takes an incredible amount of bravery.
    Yes, but the question is 'so what'?

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You can't change your gender with surgery. Your biological makup cannot be changed no matter how you justify it in your mind.
    That's correct. I suppose I didn't make myself clear enough when I agreed with you last time. No surgery changes your genetic make up. If you were born with 2 chromosomes, no surgery can ever change that. Your sex is your birth sex regardless.

    What I'm trying to clarify is that your biological make up is not what "he" and "her" refer to. Those terms refer not your sex, but to your gender.

    Sex and gender are not synonyms of each other. They are very different things.

    Out of respect I haven't linked the dictionary definitions of those terms, but if you would like I would be happy to post them if you think it would help the discussion.

    Essentially, when people call a tranny "her", they are not referring to "her" born biological sex. They are referring to "her" roll in relation to everyone else.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    If psychological problems were easy to deal with, they wouldn't be problems.
    All this guarantees is that you've never met anyone who's been through it.

    One conversation with one person who's made it out the other side and you'd change your tune.

    My friend Kimberly is changing the world and she is the bravest human being I know who isn't a soldier.

    If you'd watch her movie, Prodigals Sons, you'd recognize how human transgendered people are.

    Now, the state shouldn't pay for their breast augmentations, as the one in the OP suggests - but it's not necessary to denigrate people you don't understand just because it amuses or disgusts you.

    Sex reassignment surgery is the recommended treatment for Gender Identity Disorder and all patients must undergo one year of psychological treatment to make sure that there are no additional mental disorders before they are allowed to have the surgery.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

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    It's a picture from a Russian artist friend of mine who made it in tribute to the recent subconjunctival hemorrhage in my right eye.
    Jesus titty****ing Christ! How are you doing? Can you see out of it? Would you like me to buy you an pirate eye patch with the DebatePolitics.com logo? Arrrrr

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