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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

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    And you would be fired immediately if you did that in my office.
    You're right. It isn't funny to make fun of people with clear emotional issues.
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

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    Your star,

    Medicare actually denies more claims than private insurers.

    Pages 6, 7, and 8.

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    Check out the reasons for denial later on and you'll find a different story. Note the "expenses incurred after coverage terminated" being the top reason for almost all of the private insurers. "Preauthorization absent" is another popular one. I've also read that duplicate claims are a common reason for rejection with Medicare, but this study doesn't seem to track that. I suppose it's under "other."
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    nice to know people have free speech in your office.
    Oh, yeah. Talk to me about "free speech" in the workplace when you go up to your boss and tell him to "suck it" - or call a client the n-word and still have your job.

    There's no such thing as free speech in the work place. To imagine so is to live in a world of puppies and rainbows. Try working for Catholic Charities and bitching about the Pope. That'll get you far.

    It's long-established law that there is no free speech in the work place. The only "free speech" allowed is well-defined: language restrictions on break time; whistleblower accommodations; religious accommodations that don't negatively impact the mission of the business.

    I don't see how insulting transgendered people is protected speech in the workplace (outside, shout "shim" all you like) - any more so than calling every black person who walks in the business the n-word. Your ass should be fired. Period.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Oh, yeah. Talk to me about "free speech" in the workplace when you go up to your boss and tell him to "suck it" - or call a client the n-word and still have your job.
    I didnt say go up and call a client that. Nor did I say anything about telling a boss to suck it.

    Unfortunately, in the nature of my job we HAVE to identify transgender people as transgender people so we know how to handle problems specific to them should we have to transport.
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Oh, yeah. Talk to me about "free speech" in the workplace when you go up to your boss and tell him to "suck it" - or call a client the n-word and still have your job.

    There's no such thing as free speech in the work place. To imagine so is to live in a world of puppies and rainbows. Try working for Catholic Charities and bitching about the Pope. That'll get you far.

    It's long-established law that there is no free speech in the work place. The only "free speech" allowed is well-defined: language restrictions on break time; whistleblower accommodations; religious accommodations that don't negatively impact the mission of the business.

    I don't see how insulting transgendered people is protected speech in the workplace (outside, shout "shim" all you like) - any more so than calling every black person who walks in the business the n-word. Your ass should be fired. Period.
    Your examples are all examples of free speech in the workplace. I am free to tell my boss to suck it. No govt agents or police officers are going to come and take me away if I do. I'm not going to be charged, or arrested, or jailed. That doesn't mean that what I say won't instigate a reaction from the person I say it TO. I am perfectly free to tell my boss to suck it. And he is perfectly free to tell me not to let the door hit me in the ass on the way out. Neither of us are going to be arrested for it. THAT is what free speech is. Freedom of speech has to do with GOVT limitations (or lack thereof, as it is), not individual repercussions.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    The whole premise of my post on that topic was pointing out that two individuals who are employees having a private conversation should not be fired for what they say to one another as long as any of their attitudes displayed in said private conversation doesnt show in their dealings with clients or the public.

    Its almost like firing someone for you overheaing that they are not an Obama supporter.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Fair enough; but transgendered people is the more acceptable term. What I've found is that if you're in the practice of insulting people behind their backs, it will eventually slip out when their around and then someone's in trouble.

    I was merely making the point back (not just to you) based on the "glad there's 'free speech' in your office." There's no such thing as free speech in ANY workplace environment with the appointed legal exceptions.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Your examples are all examples of free speech in the workplace. I am free to tell my boss to suck it. No govt agents or police officers are going to come and take me away if I do. I'm not going to be charged, or arrested, or jailed. That doesn't mean that what I say won't instigate a reaction from the person I say it TO. I am perfectly free to tell my boss to suck it. And he is perfectly free to tell me not to let the door hit me in the ass on the way out. Neither of us are going to be arrested for it. THAT is what free speech is. Freedom of speech has to do with GOVT limitations (or lack thereof, as it is), not individual repercussions.
    You are right and I should have been more clear.

    You have free speech - but not without reprecussions.

    You can't sue them for firing you because they didn't "accept your filthy mouth" (or whatever).

    I should have made that more clear.

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