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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL And if you actually read the "study"

    We think these genetic differences might reduce testosterone action and under-masculinise the brain during foetal development. There is a social stigma that transsexual is simply a lifestyle choice. However, our findings support a biological basis of how gender identity develops.


    Once again reading helps. This is so true of so many studies on this subject. Someone reads the headline and doesn't look at facts.

    Hint: We "think" and "might" is not scientific backing. Its theory.
    Good effort, but here's an example of an intelligent reply:

    Quote Originally Posted by alms View Post
    Jerry,

    This poses a directionality problem. Was the male born with a female brain chemistry, or was the female brain chemistry the result of somatization or psychosomatic processes?

    Unless we have examined these individuals from birth, there is no way to establish a causal relationship between the two variables in question.
    That post takes it to the next level and requires that I step up my game to mach.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    People who believe they're animals don't have anything to do with what we're talking about, so....when you have an argument, please present it.
    Again, you brought it up. You asked the question. You seem damned right pissy that someone answered it. And they don't have anything to do with what we're talking about only because you're desperately trying to define it that way.

    As I see it people are born some way. Human male, human female for the most part. However, some people feel that they are men in a female body or vice versa and claim to have felt such a way from a very young age. Some people claim they are another species in a human body and claim to have felt such a way from a very young age. It's basically the same thing. People feeling uncomfortable or out of place with their born positions.

    But regardless, you can take that smarmy attitude of yours and cram it with walnuts because everything I've brought up that you've been bitching so heavily about was initially introduced by YOU. It's time for you to quit being stupid. Don't ask questions if you don't want them answered.
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Why should British tax payers pay for a transexual to have cosmetic surgery? The UK made the right decision when they denied to pay for his/hers surgery.
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Why should British tax payers pay for a transexual to have cosmetic surgery? The UK made the right decision when they denied to pay for his/hers surgery.
    For this case, with the breast augmentation I can see why they would deny her coverage. But for other trans related expenses, such as hormones, therapy , and SRS(Sexual Reassignment surgery) I think they should provide coverage. Seeing as transgenderism is a document medical disorder.

    And its her, not his/hers, that type of language is highly disrespectful.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

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    And its her, not his/hers, that type of language is highly disrespectful.
    I think it's disrespectful to berate one for exercising free speech. So I guess we'll both have to learn to deal with it.
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    For this case, with the breast augmentation I can see why they would deny her coverage. But for other trans related expenses, such as hormones, therapy , and SRS(Sexual Reassignment surgery) I think they should provide coverage. Seeing as transgenderism is a document medical disorder.

    And its her, not his/hers, that type of language is highly disrespectful.
    How is transgenderism a documented medical disorder? The surgery is a cosmetic one and in no way is required to save a life or correct a medical condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think it's disrespectful to berate one for exercising free speech. So I guess we'll both have to learn to deal with it.
    Degrading someone's own identity is hate speech. Yeah, its free speech, but I don't support any form of hate speech.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How is transgenderism a documented medical disorder? The surgery is a cosmetic one and in no way is required to save a life or correct a medical condition.
    I'm sorry, Gender Identity Disorder, is the correct medical term. It has varying degree's of severity, but it most cases if left untreated it can lead to depression, and in some cases suicide.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Eh, I normally am all about equality and stuff. But trannies nowadays should not be allowed for any surgery cuz they really can fool a person on how they were born.

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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Degrading someone's own identity is hate speech. Yeah, its free speech, but I don't support any form of hate speech.



    I'm sorry, Gender Identity Disorder, is the correct medical term. It has varying degree's of severity, but it most cases if left untreated it can lead to depression, and in some cases suicide.




    So wait. this is a disorder and the "Cure" is to operate and remove add parts?
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    Re: Transexual Loses Bid For State-Paid Breast Enlargements

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Degrading someone's own identity is hate speech. Yeah, its free speech, but I don't support any form of hate speech.
    I don't hate this person, I was just confused on how to address her.
    I'm sorry, Gender Identity Disorder, is the correct medical term. It has varying degree's of severity, but it most cases if left untreated it can lead to depression, and in some cases suicide.
    It is not a physical disorder but a mental one. Regardless, the state should never pay for a cosmetic procedures like undergoing transgenderal surgery or hormone treatment. Honestly, someone with gender identity disorder should receive mental therapy to help them identify with the gender they were born as, I would think it to be more damaging to treat them through surgeries. I think people have the right to undergo cosmetic surgeries (even if I don't support it), but the fact is that becoming transgendered renders someone infertile and can never truly change a man into a woman and visa versa. They aren't correcting a mental disorder by changing one's gender. They are mutilating a man's genitals and body to have the appearance of a woman. This should never be an approved therapy for gender identity disorder. People should have the right to this surgery, but it should never be used to treat a mental disorder nor should taxpayers have to pay for it.
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