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Your ignorance is funnier than the irony. "Elitist" refers to a state of mind, not social status.

A state of mind that "I belong to a club that you're not allowed into".

What the **** IS a Country Club? It is - by its very definition - elitist.

Defition from The American Heritage Dictionary:

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism (ĭ-lē'tĭz'əm, ā-lē'-)
n.

1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
2.
1. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
2. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.

I notice how much one side of the coin focuses only on intellectual elitism - i.e. they HATE someone who went to an Ivy League school. But they ignore 2/3rds of the defition about the wealthy and socially powerful.

Thus, they'll complain about elitists while they vote for CEOs who literally purchase their seats in goverment.
 
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Ahh, you mean like asking a movie producer to help out with a oil spill??

You mean the movie producer who has developed deep water submarine technology and owns two deep water submarine with which he filmed some of his underwater documentaries?

That film producer? (who, while a producer - is actually more known as a director).
 
You mean the movie producer who has developed deep water submarine technology and owns two deep water submarine with which he filmed some of his underwater documentaries?

That film producer? (who, while a producer - is actually more known as a director).

No, the other one. I suspect they talked to Michael Bay, and that's where the nuclear bomb idea came from. :D
 
Your ignorance is funnier than the irony. "Elitist" refers to a state of mind, not social status.

DING DING DING DING DING.

We have a winner.
 
See, this is the weird thing with "Elistist". You both are kind of right.

Utlimately it IS a state of mind. However, one enters into that state of mind from many different avenues.

There are social elitists. People that enter into the state of mind through a belief of their social circle, their clique, their club, their organization, whatever is better than others or has a certain standard (either defined or in pr actice) and those that don't meet that standard just aren't good enough to be a part of that group.

There are intellectual elitists. People who believe they are better than others because they are so much smarter then them and look down with disgust, distaste, pity, humor, etc on others they deem unintelligent.

There are economic elitists. People who believe they are better than others because they have money, either by the fact of having said money or the way in which they gained said money. They own fancier things, they go to fancier places, and they think it somewhat beneath them to act like the "lower class" or the "poor", or find it "quaint" or "trendy" in a belittling way to do or use such things as almost a joke.

There are skilled elitists. People who are very skilled at certain things and thus have no toleration or desire to interact with others of far less skill when doing said things, save for perhaps to embaress them to affirm their own skill at their particular activity.

I'm sure there are more, but those are some of the classifications I could think of off hand. And you can have hybrid ones. Some members of Country Clubs tend to have an air of Social and Economic elitism where as some Ivy League School students could be Intellectual elitists mixed with Social and/or Economic. Another odd hybrid that one may not think of would be gamer snobs, generally skill and economic elitism, good gamers with high end computers that enjoy to ridicule and take advantage of poorer skilled ones or people who don't have the best connection and fastest specs. Other groups that most don't associated with elitism could very well fill in. Take high schools, everyone always associates the "popular crowd" perhaps with a slight "elitist" attitude in its upper ranks...however at times you find an intellectual elitism amongst the "outcasts" who believe themselves to be so much smarter and more mature in their views of the world.

All these various types of elitism utlimately lead one to a particular mindset that essentially is what manifests the elitism, but its through those different roots that its given birth. I think trying to act like its either one or the other is frankly attempting to change it up to fit your desired argument. It is a frame of mind, but it is a frame of mind entered into generally due to some sort of reason such as social, economic, etc.

Additionally, simply being a part of such a generalized group does not mean one will have said mindset however. Take for example a gentleman by the name of Ted Leonsis, the owner of the Washington Capitals and now the Washington Wizards. Ted is very wealthy and someone whose social circle without question runs amongst a number of "higher class" people; if nothing else just his fellow owners as there are not an extremely large amount of owners of franchises in the four major U.S. Sports let alone owning 2 of them. Yet "elitist" is one of the last things you'd hear most people refer to Ted Leonsis as. This is because despite the fact that he falls within the realms which would possibly tend to give rise to it, he's stayed realitively grounded. He calls into local sports talk radio while riding around in his car to give his opinion on the random topic going on, he responds to fan emails every day that come into his blog of which he regularly writes on out of his own interest of keeping the public informed about what's going on with the teams. He routinely is seen walking through the stands, talking with fans, and going out of his way at times to sacrifice revnue in exchange for a better fan experience and a better shot at the team winning not just for him but in all honesty for the city.

Its very possible to go to an ivy league school, to be a member of a country club, to be a great athlete, to be wealthy and not be an "elitist". However those things can be the basis of which an elitist mentality is formed around those individual things as the justification for that elitism. It just doesn't mean that it definitely WILL lead to that ;)
 
DING DING DING DING DING.

We have a winner.

I'll forgive you since you may have posted this before I pointed out what "elitist" really means - instead of the selective defintion that you all seem to prefer using. And since you posted this before Zyphlin's excellent explanation.

I have said, there are intellectual elitists. That seems to be the only ones who piss you off.

I can get pissed off about that, too. I went to a State university - a good one, but it pisses me off that becuase someone spent $30,000 a year on their education, they think they're smarter.

BUT - someone who lives in a gated community; who is a member of the Wall Street elite; or who joins a Country Club IS - by definition of the word - elitist.

These you seem to be perfectly fine with.

If you can buy your elitism, you're okay with it. If it's earned through education and expertise in a field, then you seem to think that's snobbery.
 
I'll forgive you since you may have posted this before I pointed out what "elitist" really means - instead of the selective defintion that you all seem to prefer using. And since you posted this before Zyphlin's excellent explanation.

I have said, there are intellectual elitists. That seems to be the only ones who piss you off.

I can get pissed off about that, too. I went to a State university - a good one, but it pisses me off that becuase someone spent $30,000 a year on their education, they think they're smarter.

BUT - someone who lives in a gated community; who is a member of the Wall Street elite; or who joins a Country Club IS - by definition of the word - elitist.

These you seem to be perfectly fine with.

If you can buy your elitism, you're okay with it. If it's earned through education and expertise in a field, then you seem to think that's snobbery.

Elitist would be you assuming that you posted the correct definition of Elitism in the manner that I am describing it.

I suggest you read Zyph's post in regards to how a wealthy country club member who has an ivy league education can still not be an elitist.

I police the are of my city where the vast majority of educated wealthy and slightly powerful (in the business community here) folks live. I have met plenty of elitists. I have also met wealthy, educated, and powerful people who have a down right great attitude towards everyone in the community, regardless of that person's social status. Thus making them non-elitists.
 
I question this guy's judgment..... If you want to write a book about Sarah Palin, what are you doing in Wasila? Good hockey players never skate to where the puck use to be.
 

I believe the reasons for her not finishing were understandable... if you weren't so blindedly partisan to actually realize it. Our president (President Ma Ying-jeou) was in a 10km race a couple of years ago, but didn't complete it reportedly for security reasons.


She didn't finish the race, opting to leave the course early to avoid more crowds at the end. About 40 minutes into the run, word started trickling out to people gathered at the finish line that she was gone

Who takes 40 minutes to run a 5k, BTW?
 
Back on topic....

That creepy stalker author fella is still living next door. Appears the fence is up...but it prolly wasn't tall enough.

It looks like this guy tried to talk to Mr. Barracuda Barbie like a man but, Mr. Sarah wasn't up to it. He just acted hysterical, like his quitter wife. Me thinks this author is gonna get a lot of other petty, vindictive stories from the locals about the Palins. Just like what happens to bullies we all know, it's only a matter of time before the curtain hiding who the Palins really are will soon be pulled aside and the truth about the Palins exposed.
 
Sarah should just go out and buy a bunch of binoculars and mount them all over her house facing his.
 
Sarah should just go out and buy a bunch of binoculars and mount them all over her house facing his.

ok. and that will accomplish what, exactly?
 
It looks like this guy tried to talk to Mr. Barracuda Barbie like a man but, Mr. Sarah wasn't up to it. He just acted hysterical, like his quitter wife. Me thinks this author is gonna get a lot of other petty, vindictive stories from the locals about the Palins. Just like what happens to bullies we all know, it's only a matter of time before the curtain hiding who the Palins really are will soon be pulled aside and the truth about the Palins exposed.

You probably had some story/event in your mind while you were typing your response. But I have zero idea what you are talking about.....



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You probably had some story/event in your mind while you were typing your response. But I have zero idea what you are talking about.....

Big surprise. A conservative not recognizing what the Palins are all about. :roll:
 
Big surprise. A conservative not recognizing what the Palins are all about. :roll:

Actually, it's more like a conservative who is just not good at riddles.....;)



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It looks like this guy tried to talk to Mr. Barracuda Barbie like a man but, Mr. Sarah wasn't up to it. He just acted hysterical, like his quitter wife. Me thinks this author is gonna get a lot of other petty, vindictive stories from the locals about the Palins. Just like what happens to bullies we all know, it's only a matter of time before the curtain hiding who the Palins really are will soon be pulled aside and the truth about the Palins exposed.

WTF is this bull****? Mr. Barracuda Barbie? Mr Sarah? Quitter Wife?

Stop talking like a mouth drooling juvenile middle school kid and just make a freaking post.
 
WTF is this bull****? Mr. Barracuda Barbie? Mr Sarah? Quitter Wife?

Stop talking like a mouth drooling juvenile middle school kid and just make a freaking post.

I take it you don't agree
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WTF is this bull****? Mr. Barracuda Barbie? Mr Sarah? Quitter Wife?

Stop talking like a mouth drooling juvenile middle school kid and just make a freaking post.

where is the irony icon?
 

I take it you don't agree
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It's the angry misogyny that people take issue with. I mean, I hate just about everything that woman does and what she stands for, but there's no need to be a dick about it :)
 
It's the angry misogyny that people take issue with. I mean, I hate just about everything that woman does and what she stands for, but there's no need to be a dick about it :)

I'm simply extremely bigoted towards posers.
This poser being female is irrelevant.
 
It looks like this guy tried to talk to Mr. Barracuda Barbie like a man but, Mr. Sarah wasn't up to it. He just acted hysterical, like his quitter wife. Me thinks this author is gonna get a lot of other petty, vindictive stories from the locals about the Palins. Just like what happens to bullies we all know, it's only a matter of time before the curtain hiding who the Palins really are will soon be pulled aside and the truth about the Palins exposed.

I suspect it is not gonna be pretty:(
 
It's the angry misogyny that people take issue with. I mean, I hate just about everything that woman does and what she stands for, but there's no need to be a dick about it :)

Are you suggesting that AKR is being a dick? That is not nice and well makes you look bad. Just saying
 
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