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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    If these barriers will take at least 9 months to construct, Obama is correct to ignore the clearly politically motivated gripings of Jindal at this point in time.

    Everyone involved needs to focus on trying to do something now to alleviate fix this disaster now instead of trying to prevent the next disaster.

    If those islands built 9 months from now have any affect this disaster, then there is no point in even wasting the money to build them cause everything will already be totally ****ed by that point anyway. All it would do is prevent oil from ****ing up stuff that's already as ****ed up as it can get.
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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If these barriers will take at least 9 months to construct, Obama is correct to ignore the clearly politically motivated gripings of Jindal at this point in time.

    Everyone involved needs to focus on trying to do something now to alleviate fix this disaster now instead of trying to prevent the next disaster.

    If those islands built 9 months from now have any affect this disaster, then there is no point in even wasting the money to build them cause everything will already be totally ****ed by that point anyway. All it would do is prevent oil from ****ing up stuff that's already as ****ed up as it can get.




    One person has stated nine months....



    I think he wants to dredge the sand to make makeshift barriers......



    Reading his emotion, I don't think he's being political about this but moreso, true concern for his state.
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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    What recommendations did he ignore? Which scientific experts? What laws?

    You're going to have to go into more detail if you want a reasonable response.
    It's all in the Washington Post article I quoted and linked.

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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    One person has stated nine months....



    I think he wants to dredge the sand to make makeshift barriers......



    Reading his emotion, I don't think he's being political about this but moreso, true concern for his state.
    I found an old article on it:

    FOXNews.com - Jindal Asking BP to Fund Creation of Barrier Islands as Oil Spill Shield

    The project would cost $200 million and take four to six months to complete its first phase, adding 43 miles to extend the Chandeleur island chain off the state's eastern coastline in both directions, said Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser, speaking at a press conference with Jindal. However, even a few days of dredging would improve coastal protections, he added.

    First phase would take four to six months.

    Now, I have problems with this based on potential environmental ramifications. What they are proposing could have massive environmental implications that might even surpass those that already exist with this spill.

    I think it is not the type of decision that gets jumped into without some detailed study beforehand.

    It smacks of similar ecologically/environmentally-based solutions in the past that have caused more harm than they fixed

    Plus the project would take 4-6 months and $200 million for the first phase to be completed according Jindal's man himself.

    To me that seems like trying to prevent the next disaster and bull**** political pandering.

    But I'm cynical like that.


    It's a ****ing oil spill of a magnitude that has never been seen before. Of course the fixing process is going to be ****ed up.

    It's like complaining about how the cleanup form 9/11 took so long.

    #1 priority: fixing the leak. All the efforts are a waste of time if that aint' fixed.

    #2 priority: Trying to contain spill with the most immediately effective means.

    #3 Priority: AFTER 1 and 2 are achieved, cleanup the shoreline. Doing it now is like wiping your ass while you are still taking a ****.

    #4 priority: protecting for the next disaster.

    Jindal's talking about a plan that has minimal immediate efficacy and bitching about it as though it is not of minimal immediate efficacy.

    That's bull****.
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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    Tuck my man....


    from your article:


    even a few days of dredging would improve coastal protections, he added.


    it's been over a month.
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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    The Minerals Management Service was created on January 19, 1982.[3] In 1982, Congress passed the Federal Oil & Gas Royalty Management Act, which mandates protection of the environment and conservation of federal lands in the course of building oil and gas facilities. The Secretary of the Interior designated the MMS as the administrative agency responsible for the mineral leasing of submerged OCS lands and for the supervision of offshore operations after lease issuance.[4]

    W/cheney?

    FAIL
    Yeah. Cheney.

    The Energy Task Force, officially the National Energy Policy Development Group, was a task force created by then-president George W. Bush during his second week in office. Vice President Dick Cheney was named chairman. This group was intended to “develop a national energy policy designed to help the private sector, and, as necessary and appropriate, State and local governments, promote dependable, affordable, and environmentally sound production and distribution of energy for the future." Unfortunately for the American public, everything they did was secret.

    Most of the activities of the Energy Task Force have not been disclosed to the public, even though Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests (since 19 April 2001) have sought to gain access to its materials. The organizations Judicial Watch and Sierra Club launched a law suit under the Freedom of Information Act to gain access to the task force's materials. After several years of legal wrangling, in May, 2005 an appeals court permitted the Energy Task Force's records to remain secret.
    The Deepwater Horizon oil well didn't have a remote-control shut-off switch. Why didn't it have a thing that it seems every single offshore drilling rig should have? Well, we DO know that Dick Cheney's energy task force decided that the $500,000 switches were too expensive, and they didn't want to make BP buy any. And since BP didn't want to buy them either, Cheney and his oil-buddy cronies didn't force them to.

    FAIL is right.

    I agree that no drilling should be allowed unless we are sure the company has the caps, and equipment IN place to contain a spill..
    If it were up to me, I shut down all offshore drilling, but I can live with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I blame BP, the last 3 administrations. failure of both republicans/democrats, government, and private industry...
    I'll give you that there are plenty of people at fault here, but I've looked closely at what this administration can do and is doing, and I simply cannot understand what other/additional actions could have been expected of them or taken by them. Even people who are paid (at least in part) by the oil industry say there's nothing more that could reasonably be expected of the government at this juncture.

    “It’s worse than politics,” said Larry Goldstein, a director of the Energy Policy Research Foundation, which is partly financed by the oil industry. “They have had the authority from Day 1. If they could have handled this situation better, they would have already.” --NYTimes
    Clearly, you believe you know more about the situation than he does, but I'll take his word over yours any day. Sorry, pal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You are making excuses for the government because your guy has the reigns...
    Nope. I'm being realistic. You might try it some time.

    Of course, it's possible you're not capable.

    I'm also not overlooking the fact that you're a Tea Partying Drill, Baby, Drill-ite, nor the fact that you folks have got some 'splainin' to do to the people of the Gulf.

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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post


    What is it with the ADK style lefties and thier refusal to address what we are saying...


    What he said:






    What you responded:

    Please stop it. It's really an embarrassing display.

    Not one person has blamed obama "entirely" or even "mostly"......

    Most of us have been blaming BP, but have been critical of the last 3 admins for multiple failures on thier partas well...

    You obama apparatchiks circle the wagons at the least provocation... It's really silly.
    I dont know what is more embarassing for them...that they cant recognize it, or that they recognize it and still do it...as if they are somehow invested in this ideology...

    At any rate...it doesnt appear that they have the capacity to recognize the stupidity of their position...and hence...no right...no wrong...no shame. No expectation of responsibility of ANYONE on the left.

    (or good lord...another even sadder option...they REALLY think they are making intelligent and reasoned points!)

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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    They can create those islands parallel to the clean-up.
    My bet is they can get them done at the lower end of the prediction, just as they fixed the LA Freeways in record time after the Northridge quake. Given the right incentive, they'll be highly motivated to move their a$$e$.

    It's not like the resources from doing that will hamper anything else.
    The gulf is a wee bit bigger than an Olympic swimming pool.
    200 million is peanuts. Hell, a former CEO got more than that as a bonus.

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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Tuck my man....


    from your article:
    To me, that doesn't sound at all as though it fits into "Most immediately effective".

    It sounds like "Yeah, there will be some immediate gain, we hope, but the real gains won't be seen for a few months."



    it's been over a month.
    And one and two on my little list there still haven't been achieved yet. This ain't the time to go putting a condom on, which is what Jindal is basically describing.

    The clap is already in the bloodstream. Now's the time for antibiotics, not condoms.
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    Re: BP Oil Spill: Gov. Jindal Asks for Permission to Build Barrier Islands

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Yeah. Cheney.

    The Energy Task Force, officially the National Energy Policy Development Group, was a task force created by then-president George W. Bush during his second week in office. Vice President Dick Cheney was named chairman. This group was intended to “develop a national energy policy designed to help the private sector, and, as necessary and appropriate, State and local governments, promote dependable, affordable, and environmentally sound production and distribution of energy for the future." Unfortunately for the American public, everything they did was secret.

    So what happened durin Clinton and what not? Or is your blame simply for those with an "R" next to thier name?


    Who did BP donate to btw?



    The Deepwater Horizon oil well didn't have a remote-control shut-off switch. Why didn't it have a thing that it seems every single offshore drilling rig should have? Well, we DO know that Dick Cheney's energy task force decided that the $500,000 switches were too expensive, and they didn't want to make BP buy any. And since BP didn't want to buy them either, Cheney and his oil-buddy cronies didn't force them to.

    Is it mandated today? if not, I guess your anger is once again tunnel visioned by your hyper-partisanism.



    FAIL is right.

    yes quite, your getting it now shorty....






    If it were up to me, I shut down all offshore drilling, but I can live with this.

    I guess you don't drive, use plastic, heat your home, use a computer. oh wait....






    I'll give you that there are plenty of people at fault here, but I've looked closely at what this administration can do and is doing, and I simply cannot understand what other/additional actions could have been expected of them or taken by them. Even people who are paid (at least in part) by the oil industry say there's nothing more that could reasonably be expected of the government at this juncture.


    They should have mandated he acoustic cap, given all rigs a fair time to comply, they could have equipped the 1994 plan with the booms that still are missing. they could have looked at the MMS BEFORE the disaster....they could have let jindal build the barrier islands. Take the boot off of bp's neck and put it in thier ass to get this capped and clean.

    There is plenty that the government can do... you seem to be absolving your guy however.




    Clearly, you believe you know more about the situation than he does, but I'll take his word over yours any day. Sorry, pal.

    Nah, just more than you.






    Nope. I'm being realistic. You might try it some time.

    Of course, it's possible you're not capable.

    I'm also not overlooking the fact that you're a Tea Partying Drill, Baby, Drill-ite, nor the fact that you folks have got some 'splainin' to do to the people of the Gulf. :


    You forgot that the Good Reverend is stunning in all ways, and you find him sexually and intellectually irresistable. It's ok.... Shortehs always want to get with playa.
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