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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    It depends on what comes up before the council, but China probably wouldn't veto it. They've been noticably quiet (tehy barely issued a statement on the matter). They are North Korea's biggest trade partner, but the Western World is a far larger partner. When it comes down to it, they aren't going to want to side with a blatant militarily aggressive state.

    Hell, China is more likely to take military action against North Korea than South Korea is. The last thing they want is a US military presence pushed up against their border like that.

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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Brucewayne in Chicago View Post
    Hell, China is more likely to take military action against North Korea than South Korea is.
    I don't agree.

    NK has represented as a huge scapegoat for China, and to the pseudo-communists propaganda is everything. As long as the world is focused on NK no one is talking about China.

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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    I don't agree.

    NK has represented as a huge scapegoat for China, and to the pseudo-communists propaganda is everything. As long as the world is focused on NK no one is talking about China.
    I agree with you on this point. Not only that, China's rhetoric of "internal matter" will likely be heard at some point (I know, it isn't, but tell that to the thugs in Beiping).

    The PRC has the DPRK's back. Policymakers realize that. A military option, sadly, is completely out of the question.
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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    Well in essence.. that is your argument... let South Korea fend for itself, and ignore the problem of close to 30,000 American military personal that would be directly effected by any such action.
    No. Its not.

    Its my position we shouldn't have had those troops over there for the last several decades anyways.
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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    No. Its not.

    Its my position we shouldn't have had those troops over there for the last several decades anyways.
    Having those troops there honors the treaty commitment between the U.S. and SK, and it also serves as a diplomatic deterrent against NK and China. Yeah, 30,000 troops would probably lose in an all out attack right now, but such collateral damage (for lack of a better term) would jeopardize China's trade relationship with the U.S., and it greatly increases the stake should NK decide to strike.

    The troops are a good deterrent, basically.

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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    No. Its not.

    Its my position we shouldn't have had those troops over there for the last several decades anyways.
    Well they are there, and we cannot just ignore their presence when trying to envision a strategy to follow.

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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Having those troops there honors the treaty commitment between the U.S. and SK, and it also serves as a diplomatic deterrent against NK and China. Yeah, 30,000 troops would probably lose in an all out attack right now, but such collateral damage (for lack of a better term) would jeopardize China's trade relationship with the U.S., and it greatly increases the stake should NK decide to strike.

    The troops are a good deterrent, basically.
    I disagree that we should be entering into Treaties which devote our troops to serve on foreign soil to serve the interests of foreign governments.

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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I disagree that we should be entering into Treaties which devote our troops to serve on foreign soil to serve the interests of foreign governments.

    Im a bit of an Isolationist.
    SK is part of the long term U.S. strategy in Asia.

    And the fact is, the treaty was signed. The U.S. can't go back on its word now.

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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    SK is part of the long term U.S. strategy in Asia.

    And the fact is, the treaty was signed. The U.S. can't go back on its word now.
    im not saying it should.
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    Re: US backs South Korea in punishing North Korea

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    im not saying it should.
    Call me a pragmatist, but you were dwelling on the past a lot before I posted. I just don't see it as productive. The commitment is there, the troops are deployed, there is no going back. Foreign policy has to operate on a go-forward basis when it comes to situations like what's brewing on the Korean peninsula.

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