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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Rasmussen?

    Surely you jest.

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Rasmussen?

    Surely you jest.
    I never jest and don't call me Shirley.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I never jest and don't call me Shirley.
    Lord...how long have you been waiting to use that line?

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Lord...how long have you been waiting to use that line?
    You have no idea... since like 11th grade. No kidding.

    BTW thanks for giving me the oppty to use it!
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    rasmussen reports was rated #1 most accurate pollster in the nation in november, 08, by fordham university study

    it's really not a matter of argument, the founder of espn simply pegged the empiricals

    you'd have to naysay numbers

    america's most spot on surveyor predicted obtuse obama would beat maverick mccain, 52-46

    the actuals came in, 53-46

    what's more, the pollster permanently banned from msnbc held his ground with astonishing steadiness and stability, he had the call for weeks

    in 04, rasmussen was once more right on

    he foretold a 50.2-48.5 bush victory

    w ultimately won, 50.7-48.3

    in the 06 senate races, scott picked 24 of 25 races he reviewed, missing only ms mccaskill in mri

    his average margin of error in those 25 plebiscites was 3.5%

    he came within a half dozen points 23 of 25 times

    he came within three 18 times

    and he finished two or fewer points off eleven of 25 trials

    no wonder he was found #1

    http://www.fordham.edu/images/academ...20election.pdf

    Election 2006: Final Senate Results - Rasmussen Reports
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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Of course, when you actually explain what's in the bill to people the approval jumps to a majority but we don't really need to pay attention to that do we?

    I imagine a lot of people would approve of John McCain's "Internet Freedom Act" without being told what it does.

    (it would be better titled internet censorship act)
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, that one predates the health care reform bill, and points out a problem that needed to be fixed.



    from that one:



    So it will take some time to build up enough health care professionals to put the US system on a par with other civilized nations. OK, should we start now, or wait?




    From that one:


    Not sure just what that one has to do with the federal health care reform. It does point out the biggest problem with the bill that finally did get past all of the naysayers and prophets of doom: It doesn't do enough to rein in the costs of health care. There is still work to be done, a lot of it, and it probably isn't going to happen until a lot more middle class voters lose their health care. It will happen eventually, of course, and for that very reason.




    ATT, Verizon, and other large companies are going to have to quit providing health insurance to retirees sooner rather than later, reform or not. It is too expensive.



    Done.

    While I have to agree that the health care reform bill that finally came out of all of the hype and doomsaying about "death panels" and all that nonsense is a long, long way from what has to be done, the voices of unreason simply will not allow any meaningful reform to take place.

    That health care is too expensive is an understatement, but saying that it is due to the watered down practically compromised out of existence plan that resulted from the unholy coalition of ideologues and health industry lobbyists has caused it to be too expensive is to ignore the history of attempts to bring the US medical system into the modern world.

    This issue seriously needs to be revisited, but it isn't going to happen for some time now. Meanwhile, things will get worse, and the ideologues will continue to claim that the health care bill is to blame.
    with all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Don't you find it strange that we never hear of Americans going to Kanuckistan for major procedures, yet it is normal for K-stani's to come south? Just think, they have a military of 3 Moose Hunters and a couple US planes... saving billions... yet their CommiKare still sucks big time.

    Please, the US had the best system by far and wide, and the less government is involved, the better and cheaper it will be. Think if the government got involved with cell phone distribution, pricing and the lot? You wouldn't have one.

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    WRONG. A revolution in healthcare | Institute of Public Affairs Australia

    750,000 Americans go to other countries (largely Canada) for healthcare services; while 65,000 to 80,000 come to America for healthcare.

    U.S. Hospitals Worth The Trip - Forbes.com

    So, that's about 10 to 1 leaving the country for care vs. entering the country for care.

    Try using evidence instead of propaganda, and you'll find that facts don't add up the way you think.

    And while you speak of cell phones, you're aware that we have some of the worst in the world while paying the highest rates in the world:

    Mobile phone calls lowest in Finland, Netherlands and Sweden, says OECD report

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Of course, when you actually explain what's in the bill to people the approval jumps to a majority
    link?

    LOL!

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Here's a question:

    If health care should be considered an essential public service, why not food and shelter? Why not clothing and even telephones? What makes health care special?
    Food isn't something you need at unpredictable intervals and when the need for food pops up it doesn't bankrupt a middle class family. The price of food can't really be spread out amongst the population because everyone has to eat anyway. The need for police protection, fire protection, or health care, on the other hand, can be a catastrophically expensive undertaking for an individual or family.

    Besides, we already subsidize food and shelter for people who can't afford it because lack of those things can kill you.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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