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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    It is truly unfortunate.

    Nobody read the bill and Pelosi said so herself... that after it was passed we would learn more. That they used by-offs and parliamentary procedures to pass this after Brown was elected makes them look even more scum-like... if that's possible.

    The numbers are what they are because we are learning about this monstrosity, that will only grow and decay... and we are not liking it.
    Score 1 for America - 0 for Amerika.

    You know what else is truly unfortunate?

    People have examples of this system in use for decades all over the world, and it has proven a failure. That isn't ignorance it is a blindness, a scotoma produced by holding onto an ideology despite what the facts and history have clearly proven.

    That is truly sad, and very costly. It is the ignorant, blind and greedy that support a system that costs more, provides less and will cost lives. It is the introduction of waiting lists, death panels, and rationed care... just as it is from Kanuckistan to Copenhagen.

    You don't need talk radio to tell you what I have told you... then again you probably do because the press is compliant propagandists and therefore derelict in their duty to inform the public.

    Thank God for Talk Radio. More precisely, thanks to Rush taking on these freaks from the start and hoping for their failure, have we a chance to defeat Dems and repeal this nonsense.
    Is it any wonder Obi and his crew want to silence them? And tried to convince people FOXNEWS is not a news network? BTW...you fit right in with these misfits by saying this upheaval is due to Talk Radio. Talk radio didn't start the Tea Party.
    The fact that you rely on a drug addict to educate you, speaks volumes.
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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The fact that you rely on a drug addict to educate you, speaks volumes.
    And the fact that you voted for a Crackhead speaks volumes as well.

    There, we've dispensed with the worthless hyperbolic hyper partisan drivel, shall we talk about the topic now?

    Does 63% in favor of its repeal mean good things for the Republicans in 2010 and 2012? Possibly. Without information regarding how many of those 63% are liberals who want this gone because they feel it gives too much to insurance companies and wants a full public option its hard to really say. What I do think is more accurate to say is it definitely doesn't mean good things for the Democrats. Even if 25% are liberals that are unhappy with it, that still is giving you a large amount of Republicans that are stirred up and ready to come out to vote and a decent amount of liberals that are relatively upset and likely to be depressed in the turn out or vote 3rd party.

    That said, I don't think simply because a majority of Americans wnat it repealed means we should do it based on that alone, no more than I thought we should immedietely pull out of Iraq because of it being the opinion of a majority of Americans. During Clinton's years I didn't think you should govern simply on Polls, during Bush's years I didn't think you should govern simply on Polls, and during Obama's years I don't think you should govern simply on Polls. They're too easy to manipulate, are too lacking of nuance, and are polling people who often put self interest ahead of what may be best or are not really educated on the subject matter. If someone comes around 3 months from now and shows that 63% of people favor a "free public health care" I'm not going to give that any more or less credance than I give this.

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The fact that you rely on a drug addict to educate you, speaks volumes.
    Ahh, the lame defense of the left.
    When stuck with reality poking them in the eye, throw a shovel of feces.

    Disney, I used to be like you.
    I was an unapologetic socialist.
    180 degrees to where I am now.

    I grew up. Traveled a ton, saw much of the socialist world, and with time came to the conclusion I was wrong on issue after issue. Though I fell into the socialist camp on issue after issue, I wasn't tied to the ideology, wasn't closed minded, it did not blind me. The last belief in socialism to fall was healthcare, and that was about 20-years ago.

    It helps to have a voracious appetite for the truth.

    And you? What's your excuse?

    This is a good start to understand how feeble socialist states are when compared to US States.
    The very best Euros are among the five worst US states. Enjoy.
    http://www.timbro.se/bokhandel/pdf/9175665646.pdf

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan... and the words... passed by congressional Democrats and signed into law by President Obama... are vunderful.
    It's 100% your stinking property.
    Well of course they want it repealed. I want it repealed too. It isn't real reform.
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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    No matter who's doing the poll... I've said it in other posts but I will say it again...

    I don't buy this whole What america wants/supports crap... people seem to be more concerned with brandgelina then with half of this political nonsense.

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    Bazinga!

    Personally, I don't care about the details of the bill (though I have read up on it fairly extensively). I know what it intends to do and I am against the philosophy of the bill. It is not the government's job to ensure that each US citizen has healthcare and so they should step back.It is stepping beyond the boundary of the duties of a national United States government with this bill.
    Here's a question:

    Why shouldn't healthcare be considered an essential public service like police and fire protection?
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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    because you can't expand medicare and medicaid, already overstrained, already critically relied upon, by 12 million while simultaneously cutting their already insufficient fundings by half a T, fundamentally

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    while americans in near unison say, repeal the pig, obamites comeback with the same 3 pathetic counterarguments---

    1. it's better than doing nothing

    2. republicans were no help

    3. opponents lie about its contents

    wow, sounds like a really great bill

    LOL!

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    yep..it's very unfortunate that people refuse to educate themselves about this bill, instead believing whatever talk radio feeds them.
    Wait...are you talking about the democrat politicians and liberal idiots who voted for this and support it without (admittedly) even knowing whats in it, what it will cost, when it even kicks in, etc?

    I agree...what complete and utter dumbasses.

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    Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan

    Maybe people found out Obamacare will cost them more than insurance does now.

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