Page 11 of 16 FirstFirst ... 910111213 ... LastLast
Results 101 to 110 of 151

Thread: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

  1. #101
    Guru
    USA_1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    BANNED
    Last Seen
    04-16-11 @ 02:45 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    3,142

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    I accept they have a nuclear warhead... I am asking with what delivery system you think it would be delivered with? Possession of a nuclear warhead does not mean it is combat use ready. North Korea has no real delviery system for a warhead.

    Not to mention, their test yields were so low, there is about a .1% chance it would "kill millions of people."
    Actually NK does have missiles. Who is to say they don't have a nuclear warhead strapped to one. It's been years since the first nuclear test. They have had time to get ready. Thay have airplanes as well.

    Summary of North Korea
    Last edited by USA_1; 05-29-10 at 09:34 PM.
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

  2. #102
    Educator
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    02-04-15 @ 11:02 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    808

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It is still a very risky thing. All I am saying is that war is probably the most important decision any country can make. America and South Korea should really weigh all the options, form a strategy, and get better intel before jumping into a war. We need to learn from the mistakes we have made in history, specifically the ones made within the last presidential administration.
    I don't disagree, and I personally think getting involved in another war would be a bad idea. That said, should one occur, I feel we must back South Korea or we will lose a huge part of our credibility with our allies.

    Putting that aside, my point is simply the notion that seems to be floating around that "North Korea will get a free pass because it might nuke something" is outrageous, since NK really lacks the capacity to even deliver such a weapon in combat. Best case scenario for NK is they try to use an old bomber as the delivery system, however it seems extremely unlikely that such a mission would be successful, especially against the USAF and SK ground defenses.

    I think people are putting to much emphasis on the NK nuclear aspect of the whole situation.

  3. #103
    Educator
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    02-04-15 @ 11:02 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    808

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Actually NK does have missiles. Who is to say they don't have a nuclear warhead strapped to one. It's been years since the first nuclear test. They have had time to get ready. Thay have airplanes as well.
    It is widely acknowledged that they do not have the capability to successfully miniturize a warhead for use on any of their current missile systems.

    As for airplanes, I briefly discussed that in the above post, but will more if you would like.
    Last edited by NolaMan; 05-29-10 at 09:35 PM.

  4. #104
    Guru
    USA_1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    BANNED
    Last Seen
    04-16-11 @ 02:45 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    3,142

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    It is widely acknowledged that they do not have the capability to successfully miniturize a warhead for use on any of their current missile systems.
    Widely acknowledged? Who really knows what they have?
    Summary of North Korea This was in 2005.
    "This Administration will constantly strive to promote an ownership society in America. We want more people owning their own home. It is in our national interest that more people own their own home. After all, if you own your own home, you have a vital stake in the future of our country."" GWB

  5. #105
    Educator
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    02-04-15 @ 11:02 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    808

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Widely acknowledged? Who really knows what they have?
    Summary of North Korea This was in 2005.
    Sure, nothing is for certain, however most of the literature (that I have come across at least) from those who focus on such issues seem to indicate they are unlikely to have such a capability currently. It is pretty difficult to accomplish, and (without help) I think it would take them much longer than they have had.

  6. #106
    Global Moderator
    Truth will set you free
    digsbe's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Metro Washington DC
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:58 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,984

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    I don't disagree, and I personally think getting involved in another war would be a bad idea. That said, should one occur, I feel we must back South Korea or we will lose a huge part of our credibility with our allies.

    Putting that aside, my point is simply the notion that seems to be floating around that "North Korea will get a free pass because it might nuke something" is outrageous, since NK really lacks the capacity to even deliver such a weapon in combat. Best case scenario for NK is they try to use an old bomber as the delivery system, however it seems extremely unlikely that such a mission would be successful, especially against the USAF and SK ground defenses.

    I think people are putting to much emphasis on the NK nuclear aspect of the whole situation.
    It seems we agree. I was just stating that we weigh all options and get a strategy set and take no chances. And I agree that we must Support South Korea if there is a war to ensue.
    When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser. -Socrates
    Tired of elections being between the lesser of two evils.

  7. #107
    Educator
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    02-04-15 @ 11:02 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    808

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Widely acknowledged? Who really knows what they have?
    Summary of North Korea This was in 2005.
    There is a CRS report for Congress called North Korea’s Nuclear Weapons Program from 2006, and another CRS report on the threat to the US (I know not really the topic, but still enlightening on NK missile tech) from 2009 with a similiar name for reference.

  8. #108
    pawn in the game of life
    pragmatic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    10-17-17 @ 05:33 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    1,984

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    .

    Suspect that much hinges on what China agrees to with regard to actions against NK. Unless there is some direct provocation against the US by Lil' kim, don't believe we are going to take any notable aggressive steps unless China is on board with it...


    .
    Last edited by pragmatic; 05-29-10 at 10:21 PM.

  9. #109
    Defender of the Faith
    ludahai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Taichung, Taiwan - 2017 East Asian Games Candidate City
    Last Seen
    07-03-13 @ 02:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    10,320

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    I was joking. But under no circumstances would I commit US troops in a war against N Korea. We are not the world policemen and another war would probably totally wipe out our economy and our country. Diplomacy is the only way out of this.
    So, you would have the US unilateraly abrogate the long-standing treaty between the US and the ROK on the Korean Peninsula?!?! So much for enhancing American credibility in the world...
    Semper Paratus
    Boston = City of Champions: Bruins 2011; Celtics 2008; Red Sox 2004, 2007; Patriots 2002, 2004, 2005
    Jon Huntsman for President

  10. #110
    Defender of the Faith
    ludahai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Taichung, Taiwan - 2017 East Asian Games Candidate City
    Last Seen
    07-03-13 @ 02:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    10,320

    Re: NKorea warns of war if punished for ship sinking

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think Obama should wait and weigh all available options. War is probably the most serious decision any country can make. We don't want N. Korea firing a nuke on South Korea, and an all out war wouldn't solve anything unless the N. Korea government was dissolved in the process.
    It should be LEE making the decisions, NOT Obama. The South Koreans were the victims of aggression. It is their call. The U.S. is treaty-bound to come to South Korea's aid. South Korea has already been the victim of an act of war. They are entirely justified (even if it wouldn't necessarily be smart) to insist on war against the DPRK. They are going to wait for the UNSC, but the language coming out of Beiping right now is NOT encouraging. Another example of the thugs in Zhongnanhai saying one thing to one audience and then changing their tune when they get home.
    Semper Paratus
    Boston = City of Champions: Bruins 2011; Celtics 2008; Red Sox 2004, 2007; Patriots 2002, 2004, 2005
    Jon Huntsman for President

Page 11 of 16 FirstFirst ... 910111213 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •