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    Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

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    In final edits leading up to the vote, conservatives rejected language to modernize the classification of historic periods to B.C.E. and C.E. from the traditional B.C. and A.D.
    Good.

    They also required that public school students in Texas evaluate efforts by global organizations such as the United Nations to undermine U.S. sovereignty.

    McLeroy offered the amendment requiring students to evaluate efforts by global organizations including the U.N. to undermine U.S. sovereignty, saying they threatened individual liberty and freedom.
    Also, good. It is true in many areas.

    During the monthslong process of creating the guidelines, conservatives successfully strengthened the requirements on teaching the Judeo-Christian influences of the nation's Founding Fathers and attempted to water down rationale for the separation of church and state.
    Heaven forbid that we actually teach what the influences of our Founding Fathers were...

    The standards will refer to the U.S. government as a "constitutional republic," rather than "democratic,"
    Heaven forbid that we teach students what the government of the US REALLY is...

    and students will be required to study the decline in the value of the U.S. dollar, including the abandonment of the gold standard.
    Heaven forbid we actually teach some BASIC economic understanding...

    Conservatives say the Texas history curriculum has been unfairly skewed to the left after years of Democrats controlling the board.
    Well, duhh...
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Sounds like an overreaction to a perceived, and likely inaccurate view. Texas gets a lot wrong.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sounds like an overreaction to a perceived, and likely inaccurate view. Texas gets a lot wrong.
    How are any of the points I highlighted an overreaction?
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Good.
    Really? Why? Academics use B.C.E. and C.E. as opposed to B.C. and A.D. - Why do you have such a problem with academics?

    Also, good. It is true in many areas.
    Only this is subjective to whether or not you believe the U.N. is trying to undermine the sovereignty of the U.S. - Which it isn't.

    Heaven forbid that we actually teach what the influences of our Founding Fathers were...
    Unless it's Thomas Jefferson.

    Texas Conservatives Win Vote on Textbook Standards - NYTimes.com

    Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.”)
    Really? St. Thomas Aquinas and John Calvin were more influential in the foundation of the U.S. and the domino revolutions of Latin America than Thomas ****ing Jefferson? REALLY?

    Heaven forbid that we teach students what the government of the US REALLY is...
    I wonder if they will say that Constitutional Republics were first advocated by Liberals. Doubt it.

    Heaven forbid we actually teach some BASIC economic understanding...
    I wonder if they will teach that U.S. foreign dollar declined 40% from 2002 to 2008. During, you know, a Republican administration.

    Well, duhh...
    What do you have against academia?
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    How are any of the points I highlighted an overreaction?
    Start with the language:

    to undermine

    threatened

    water down rationale for the separation of church and state.

    unfairly skewed to the left


    This is a political view and not really an accurate view. Language is, btw, how you measure these things. Not POV, or making a case, but with biased and over the top language.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Start with the language:

    to undermine

    threatened

    water down rationale for the separation of church and state.

    unfairly skewed to the left


    This is a political view and not really an accurate view. Language is, btw, how you measure these things. Not POV, or making a case, but with biased and over the top language.
    Actually, those words were the choice of the writer of the article ... perhaps evidence of ideological bias on the part of the writer?
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Actually, those words were the choice of the writer of the article ... perhaps evidence of ideological bias on the part of the writer?
    Perhaps, but you echoed them, right? You agreed, right?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Really? Why? Academics use B.C.E. and C.E. as opposed to B.C. and A.D. - Why do you have such a problem with academics?
    History books are generally written by academics (except for the likes of pseudohistories like those present by Menzies). Nearly all of the history books I have in my personal library use B.C. and A.D.

    Only this is subjective to whether or not you believe the U.N. is trying to undermine the sovereignty of the U.S. - Which it isn't.
    What is wrong with giving the students the evidence and allow them to make their OWN assessment.

    I did disagree with that point in a different forum.

    Really? St. Thomas Aquinas and John Calvin were more influential in the foundation of the U.S. and the domino revolutions of Latin America than Thomas ****ing Jefferson? REALLY?
    This is a point where I disagree. While the Christian heritage (though Calvin himself was a theocrat like the Puritans were and was an important influence for said Puritans), Jefferson was of course an important influence. But remember, Jefferson himself was influenced by both the thinking and philosophy of the French Enlightenment as well as the Christian heritage of the colonists.

    I wonder if they will say that Constitutional Republics were first advocated by Liberals. Doubt it.
    Liberals of the 1770s and liberals of the 2010s are hardly analogous.

    I wonder if they will teach that U.S. foreign dollar declined 40% from 2002 to 2008. During, you know, a Republican administration.
    I hope they do in economics class. I would if I taught the course (I am certified to teach the class, but have never taught it in high school). You seem to have this mistaken impression that I have some need to defend the economic policies of the previous president.

    What do you have against academia?
    I have a lot against "ivory tower" academia. Believe me, there is a huge difference between the ivory tower types of academics who have no clue what is happening in the real world and those who actually have a clue reharding the PRACTICAL applications and use of the research they do. This was VERY clear to me when I was a grad student and a primary reason I did NOT continue on to get my PhD.
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Perhaps, but you echoed them, right? You agreed, right?
    I agreed with the cited alterations to the curriculum. That does not imply agreement with the adjectives and adjective phrases chosen by the author of the article. I quoted them from the article to maintain some semblance of continuity in the quoted passage.
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    For the love of all that is holy, the FOUNDING FATHERS weren't inspired by Christians notions. They were DEIST get that in too your notions.

    And Here
    Deism and the Founding Fathers: Separation of Church and State the Result of Enlightenment Ideals

    In final edits leading up to the vote, conservatives rejected language to modernize the classification of historic periods to B.C.E. and C.E. from the traditional B.C. and A.D.
    What does B.C.E, and C.E stand for anyways?




    The standards will refer to the U.S. government as a "constitutional republic," rather than "democratic,"
    It is actually a Constitution-based federal republic with strong democratic tradition soruce



    and students will be required to study the decline in the value of the U.S. dollar, including the abandonment of the gold standard.
    So this decline in the value of the U.S dollar when did this happen? Because Last I check the U.s dollar is still the same.

    From this link it shows the different values you can get for a US dollar.

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