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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

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    That is making a judgment that those organizations are trying to undermine US sovereignty.
    I have to agree Red, that is exactly what the UN is trying to do.
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I have to agree Red, that is exactly what the UN is trying to do.
    I don't think it is something that is so much factual as interpretive, if you follow what I am saying. The UN is trying to insert a set of international rules. Whether that is undermining US sovereignty is more of an opinion. If I was designing the coursework, I would I think present what the UN is doing, and ask the students to judge if they think it is undermining US sovereignty.

    By the way, "sovereignty" is a pain in the ass word to spell and type.
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Besides that, "undermining U.S. sovereignty" is misleading claim. It makes it sound as though the United Nations is gunning for the United States when it is laying down a heavier hammer on other countries.

    A more realistic claim is that the Security Council is undermining the United Nations.

    By the way, "sovereignty" is a pain in the ass word to spell and type.
    Not so bad. Just break it up into sove-reign-ty.
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't think it is something that is so much factual as interpretive, if you follow what I am saying. The UN is trying to insert a set of international rules. Whether that is undermining US sovereignty is more of an opinion. If I was designing the coursework, I would I think present what the UN is doing, and ask the students to judge if they think it is undermining US sovereignty.

    By the way, "sovereignty" is a pain in the ass word to spell and type.
    You could be right, but from where I am sitting that is what it looks like they are doing.

    As for letting them judge. I would not really have a problem with that.
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    #1 No one has said America was founded on Christianity, not a soul.
    I guess you haven't been paying attention then.

    #2 The letter was to convince a Muslim government we did not care about the religion they followed. This so they would sign the treaty of Tripoli.

    The wording of the Constitution does not in any way back up the hog wash you have put forth.
    Sure it does. But, you have to read it to see that subtle point.

    #3 Yes, that's it; 4 times.
    Yep, only 4... in the Declaration of Independence. NONE in the Constitution, which is... law.

    You are trying to ignore the history behind the choices and accuse people of saying things they did not say.
    Yes, I know you think that what people actually say shouldn't be used as evidence of their intentions but, you would be wrong on that thought also.
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    Since when is signing a treaty willingly having our sovereignty undermined?
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

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    So you actually believe that the founding fathers wanted a Christan nation when in fact they have a law that dictates that we aren't a Christan nation.

    I have read the Declaration of Independence, and the fact is I couldn't find were they wanted a Christan nation. I have also read the US continuation, and their is no law that suggest that they wanted a theocracy

    Funny, that I couldn't find any thing related too having this country as a theocracy. Black dog, I just suggest some reading material for you, and them, since they are advancing this idea that Separation of church, and state is a myth. The First Amendment sates that the government will not make any law "respecting an establishment of religion

    The free exercise clause is in there for a reason which means we aren't a Christan nation, nor did they want a theocracy.
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    What Texas is doing is nothing short of trying to instill conservative social values in the minds of children.

    Shouldn't parents be the ones instructing their kids?

    It seems as if they are taking snippets of history that support their views and presenting them to learning children as the only facts out there.

    This is nothing short of silently propogating children.
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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    I guess you haven't been paying attention then.
    Obviously you weren't. Please point out where someone said anything even close.

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    Sure it does. But, you have to read it to see that subtle point.
    Oh now it is a "subtle point" LMAO!

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    Yep, only 4... in the Declaration of Independence. NONE in the Constitution, which is... law.
    You brought it up not me. Nice fallacy though.

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    Yes, I know you think that what people actually say shouldn't be used as evidence of their intentions but, you would be wrong on that thought also.
    Yea you are correct we should completely ignore the intent and the why of it.

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    Re: Texas board adopts new social studies curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    What Texas is doing is nothing short of trying to instill conservative social values in the minds of children.
    You mean just like our public schools have been doing with liberalism for years? Yea pretty much.

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    Shouldn't parents be the ones instructing their kids?
    Not necessarily.

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    It seems as if they are taking snippets of history that support their views and presenting them to learning children as the only facts out there.
    Like they have been doing in a more liberal way for years. Yes they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This is nothing short of silently propogating children.
    Glad you see it the way conservatives have for years.
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