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    Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

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    The author of Arizona's immigration law, state Sen. Russell Pearce, told constituents he wants to pass another measure to invalidate citizenship granted to the children of illegal aliens.

    Pearce wrote that he plans to "push for an Arizona bill that would refuse to accept or issue a birth certificate that recognizes citizenship to those born to illegal aliens, unless one parent is a citizen," in an email obtained by Phoenix CBS affiliate KPHO.
    In this, those supporting a state law to not recognize such birth certificates are going way too far. This is CLEARLY a violation of the U.S. constitution which grants U.S. citizenship to anyone born in the United States.

    Don't like this, work to change to Constitution. However, unlike the other two controversial laws (which I support), I can NOT support this proposal. It is blatently unconstitutional.
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

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    In this, those supporting a state law to not recognize such birth certificates are going way too far. This is CLEARLY a violation of the U.S. constitution which grants U.S. citizenship to anyone born in the United States.

    Don't like this, work to change to Constitution. However, unlike the other two controversial laws (which I support), I can NOT support this proposal. It is blatently unconstitutional.
    This is indeed a constitutional matter, enough said. However I'm sure some people are bound to come in to cheer in support of this possible state law.

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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

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    In this, those supporting a state law to not recognize such birth certificates are going way too far. This is CLEARLY a violation of the U.S. constitution which grants U.S. citizenship to anyone born in the United States.

    Don't like this, work to change to Constitution. However, unlike the other two controversial laws (which I support), I can NOT support this proposal. It is blatently unconstitutional.
    His first law hasn't been tested yet and he's already going after the babies.

    And, some might say, based on his first law, he hasn't really read the U.S. constitution or bill of rights in quite some time.

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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    how retroactive are you willing to make it Russel???????????

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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    His first law hasn't been tested yet and he's already going after the babies.

    And, some might say, based on his first law, he hasn't really read the U.S. constitution or bill of rights in quite some time.
    Nothing wrong with the first law, it is actually not as broad as existing federal law. However, this new proposal clearly violates the Constitution.
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Nothing wrong with the first law, it is actually not as broad as existing federal law. However, this new proposal clearly violates the Constitution.
    The test of the first law is still to come.

    Fed Courts won't rule on state laws on paper, once it goes into practice and they have actual cases to review... Then we'll see.

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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    While I dislike the idea (albeit stereotypical) of illegal immigrants intentionally having a child so that it becomes a citizen (thus making one of their family members a citizen of the US, the so-called "anchor baby" bit)...

    If those children are put through public school properly, they should become productive citizens...Assuming the public school system functioned properly, which it does not currently (pet issue here).

    But yeah, the law is fine as is, although perhaps requiring several months residency (even if illegal) would be an idea.
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    He need to go read the freaking continuation of America. Am I the only on, that is worried that what Arizona is doing might become reality? I mean come on the birth right is constitutional. The author of this bill needs to go read the continuation of America.

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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    The Constitution was amended to say that anyone born within the United States is automatically a US citizen. It can be amended again to say that only those born to US citizens are automatically granted citizenship-- and I think it should be.

    Failing that, however, his proposed law is unconstitutional and should not be pursued.

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