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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The test of the first law is still to come.

    Fed Courts won't rule on state laws on paper, once it goes into practice and they have actual cases to review... Then we'll see.
    If the state law is misapplied and racial profiling DOES occur, I expect cases of individual enforcement. However, if the AZ law is unconstitutional, so is existing federal law.
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    I hope states like New Hampshire pass this law. All those 'anchor babies' from Asia need to be done away with too.
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I hope states like New Hampshire pass this law. All those 'anchor babies' from Asia need to be done away with too.
    huh?!?!? non sequiter?
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    huh?!?!? non sequiter?
    What? You think Mexicans are the only illegal immigrants? They illegal immigration from Asia is a problem too you know.

    ALIPAC - Illegal immigrants from Asia are increasing along the US borders

    In a stunning example of history repeating itself, an invasion of Chinese illegal immigrants is underway in the American Southwest and the authorities are doing everything they can to stop it. In the Nogales Sector of Arizona, 78 Chinese nationals were apprehended while trying to enter the US illegally through Mexico in October of this year alone. Between October 2008 and the end of August 2009, the Tucson Sector arrested 261 Chinese nationals according to Patrol Agent Colleen Agle. In the previous year only 30 had been captured. That is an 1100% increase in one year for Arizona. Texas has also seen a major increase in illegal Chinese traffic.
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What? You think Mexicans are the only illegal immigrants? They illegal immigration from Asia is a problem too you know.

    ALIPAC - Illegal immigrants from Asia are increasing along the US borders
    In New Hampshire?!?!?

    And, yes I am aware that there are other illegal aliens. I disagree with the proposal in this thread, or did you NOT read the OP?
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
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    In this, those supporting a state law to not recognize such birth certificates are going way too far. This is CLEARLY a violation of the U.S. constitution which grants U.S. citizenship to anyone born in the United States.

    Don't like this, work to change to Constitution. However, unlike the other two controversial laws (which I support), I can NOT support this proposal. It is blatently unconstitutional.
    We need to be careful here, otherwise we may lose our birthright citizenship rights in Mexico. Mexico can be a mirror to y'know...

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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    We need to be careful here, otherwise we may lose our birthright citizenship rights in Mexico. Mexico can be a mirror to y'know...
    Do they even exist?!?!?
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    In New Hampshire?!?!?
    Why not? What? You think the only state that has illegal immigrants is Arizona?

    And, yes I am aware that there are other illegal aliens. I disagree with the proposal in this thread, or did you NOT read the OP?
    I did. And my statement is this is exactly what those who supported the other laws deserve. It was only a matter of time before they came up with something like this. If they want to enforce it retroactively? I'm down. I ain't got nothing to worry about.
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why not? What? You think the only state that has illegal immigrants is Arizona?
    It makes sense to:

    1. Apply this to a state with a demonstrable illegal immigration problem. Arizona has this. NH's illegals are very minimal and I doubt there are a significant number of Asian illegals there. Nice strawman, though.

    2. It also makes sense to see if the Arizona law is effective before other states enact it. I have also said this previously.

    I did. And my statement is this is exactly what those who supported the other laws deserve. It was only a matter of time before they came up with something like this. If they want to enforce it retroactively? I'm down. I ain't got nothing to worry about.
    Difference is that the first law is Constitutional and addresses a real problem. The current proposal is clearly UNConstitutional. I know some people have difficulty separating issues for partisan reasons, but these are NOT the same and reasonable people can support one and oppose the other despite what some partisan hacks may say to the contrary.
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    Re: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It makes sense to:

    1. Apply this to a state with a demonstrable illegal immigration problem. Arizona has this. NH's illegals are very minimal and I doubt there are a significant number of Asian illegals there.
    How do you know?

    Nice strawman, though.
    Learn what a strawman is.

    2. It also makes sense to see if the Arizona law is effective before other states enact it. I have also said this previously.
    Well then you should have no problem with this law. You see no problem with people being stopped and asked for documentation papers simply because they seem like they're not from here. I have no problem with anchor babies being removed with their parents. What are we discussing?

    Difference is that the first law is Constitutional and addresses a real problem.
    Since when is it up to local police agencies to enforce immigration laws? K thanks Bye!
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