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Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

ADK_Forever is so full of ****! It is so wonderful not having to read his garbage or filth.

And that's pretty much where I am with him now. The ignore feature is in order because he's made it painfully obvious that he isn't interested in discussion by nature of the fact that he won't respond to what is actually said versus what he wants you to have said.
 
And this is the total lack of reading comprehension that I was responding to; I never said it was ok. I said that's what it did and I said it will get better.

You said:
I find it so funny that people minimize the effect of Valdez just to try to magnify the effect of the Gulf spill. It was TEH HORRORZ when it happened back in '89 but now everyone is saying "oh it wasn't that bad".

I haven't heard anyone saying that and you still hasn't shown me who has. In other words, BS!

Then you ended with this doozy:
Just goes to prove my point that this, too, will pass.

This too will pass? In other words, that ten years of devastation is ok. that we'll get over it?

You may have meant something different but, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person here who came away with the same impression from this posting. This went way past your cavalier attitude about this disaster. It went right into Crazy Country. There are people on this forum who are personally dealing with this mess. To have such an insensitive attitude, as a few others here do, is shameful.

Try letting what's actually being posted to you eclipse your desire to engage in a mouthfoaming rant about make believe posts.

I'm simply responding to what you wrote. Maybe you're too poetic for me. If that's the case, I apologize for misreading your post and raking you over the coals. But, this post combined with your other cavalier posts about this disaster provided the context for why I read what I did in this post.
 
ADK_Forever is so full of ****! It is so wonderful not having to read his garbage or filth.

Maybe you should report that Ignore feature as defective.
 
This too will pass? In other words, that ten years of devastation is ok. that we'll get over it?

Do you honestly not see how this is a mindbogglingly flawed interpretation of what he said?

Saying that something will eventually return to normal is not the same as saying that it's no big deal for it to have happened in the first place.

To put it in terms you might appreciate: If Obama said that New Orleans will eventually rebuild and be stronger than ever, would you interpret that as him saying that it's okay that Katrina devastated it?
 
It's this kind of head-in-the-sand attitude that I was responding to. YOU think it's ok to "pretty much ruin the economy" for ten years:confused: Seriously? The impact on the economy on the south, and maybe southeast, coast will probably be much worse than the Valdez created.

Who the hell is saying "oh it wasn't that bad":confused:

Your minimizing of this disaster is embarrasing.

You're one of the dudes that wants to shut down offshore operations; speaking of, "runining the economy". For most of the gulf coast states, the oil and gas industry makes up the lion's share of the economic activity.
 
Do you honestly not see how this is a mindbogglingly flawed interpretation of what he said?

Saying that something will eventually return to normal is not the same as saying that it's no big deal for it to have happened in the first place.

To put it in terms you might appreciate: If Obama said that New Orleans will eventually rebuild and be stronger than ever, would you interpret that as him saying that it's okay that Katrina devastated it?

The only thing here that is mindbogglingly anything is your refusal to hear me. I said I put his comments in context with his other it-ain't-a-big-deal posts. To assume I would "appreciate" an analogy simply because you make it about Obama shows your flawed assumptions.
 
You're one of the dudes that wants to shut down offshore operations; speaking of, "runining the economy". For most of the gulf coast states, the oil and gas industry makes up the lion's share of the economic activity.

I assume you can show where I said that.

So, be my guest and... prove it.

Good luck! :2wave:
 
I assume you can show where I said that.

So, be my guest and... prove it.

Good luck! :2wave:

Are you saying that you do not want to shut down offshore drilling?
 
Are you saying that you do not want to shut down offshore drilling?

You made an accusation. I'm tossing the ball back onto your side of the court.

Prove it.
 
You made an accusation. I'm tossing the ball back onto your side of the court.

Prove it.

It's a fair question. Why can't you give us a fair answer? Clarify where I'm wrong.
 
It's a fair question.

No it's not. It's an unfair and unsubstantiated accusation. Explain why you made it and I'll respond to that. You don't get to throw **** at the wall and then expect an explanation to what sticks.
 
So? They're working on fixing it. And it needs to gush at the same rate it did on day one for 261 days before it ever gets to the same level as the Valdez oil spill. So yeah, not really flipping out over it. Valdez is fine now. So, too, will be the Gulf and the wetlands, eventually.

What's done is done. Call me in 261 days...then I will start getting a little concerned.

Where did you get that stat? Did you mean 261 days from now? Because it'll only be around 25 days until it reaches Exxon-Valdez levels.


I'm not attacking, I'm just curious.


Heres a quote from NOAA.

According to NOAA, an estimated 210,000 gallons (5,000 barrels) a day is coming from the remaining ruptures. At that rate, this leak would surpass the 11 million gallons spilled by the Exxon Valdez in 1989 in mid-June if left unchecked

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/05/how-much-oil-has-spilled-in-the-gulf-of-mexico.html


BP's worst estimates put it at 2.5 million gallons PER DAY. Which equates out to 81,873,000 as of today...


Outside estimates put it at 1 million per day, which is still 34 million gallons leaked as of today. This may not be as bad as what happened in Kuwait in 1991, but it will be the worst in U.S history..hopefully forever
 
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Yet Obama and the government are doing nothing to help BP stop the leak


Well, he's doing something, but it certainly isn't enough.

The Press Secretary just said Friday the government is 'overseeing the response.' Granted the EPA wasn't nearly prepared for a disaster like this, the government should be giving assistance to BP in any ways necessary and avoid BP's stiff-arming to save face.

Gibbs saying that 'It is BP's mess and they are responsible for capping it." can be equated to if there was a privately run nuclear power plant and the reactor had a meltdown. If the company didn't have the capabilities to secure the area and stop the meltdown, would the government sit back and say it's their responsibility? I hope not.

The governments #1 job is to protect the people of this nation from any threat, not to sit back and hope BP does it.
 
Well, he's doing something, but it certainly isn't enough.

The Press Secretary just said Friday the government is 'overseeing the response.' Granted the EPA wasn't nearly prepared for a disaster like this, the government should be giving assistance to BP in any ways necessary and avoid BP's stiff-arming to save face.

Gibbs saying that 'It is BP's mess and they are responsible for capping it." can be equated to if there was a privately run nuclear power plant and the reactor had a meltdown. If the company didn't have the capabilities to secure the area and stop the meltdown, would the government sit back and say it's their responsibility? I hope not.

The governments #1 job is to protect the people of this nation from any threat, not to sit back and hope BP does it.

Where are the government engineers and scientist to help with a solution to stop the leak?

Only BP has expertise to stop spill, top U.S. response official says - Yahoo! News

The U.S. official leading the response to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill said Sunday that only BP had the expertise to plug the gaping hole in its deepwater well and that he trusted the oil company was doing its best.

The comments by Adm. Thad Allen , the commandant of the Coast Guard , signaled that the U.S. government wouldn't take a larger role in stopping the five-week-old spill even as frustration in the Gulf coast grows over the Obama administration's policy of letting BP run the cleanup.


If this is so how can they keep complaining? How can they regulate or inspect rigs if they have no knowledge. Does this mean the government is at fault because they have no knowledge of rigs and so do not know what to inspect?

Obama can not have it both ways. Sounds more like a copout to me
 
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Where are the government engineers and scientist to help with a solution to stop the leak?

Only BP has expertise to stop spill, top U.S. response official says - Yahoo! News

The U.S. official leading the response to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill said Sunday that only BP had the expertise to plug the gaping hole in its deepwater well and that he trusted the oil company was doing its best.

The comments by Adm. Thad Allen , the commandant of the Coast Guard , signaled that the U.S. government wouldn't take a larger role in stopping the five-week-old spill even as frustration in the Gulf coast grows over the Obama administration's policy of letting BP run the cleanup.


If this is so how can they keep complaining? How can they regulate or inspect rigs if they have no knowledge. Does this mean the government is at fault because they have no knowledge of rigs and so do not know what to inspect?

Obama can not have it both ways. Sounds more like a copout to me


Are you asking me those questions? Or just asking in general? I'm not sure because you are just reiterating the same points I made. It seems we have a problem with the same issues.
 
Where are the government engineers and scientist to help with a solution to stop the leak?

They're there. What? You want them to take time out from what they're doing to personally notify you about their activities? :roll:

Only BP has expertise to stop spill, top U.S. response official says - Yahoo! News

The U.S. official leading the response to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill said Sunday that only BP had the expertise to plug the gaping hole in its deepwater well and that he trusted the oil company was doing its best.

The comments by Adm. Thad Allen , the commandant of the Coast Guard , signaled that the U.S. government wouldn't take a larger role in stopping the five-week-old spill even as frustration in the Gulf coast grows over the Obama administration's policy of letting BP run the cleanup.

If this is so how can they keep complaining?

Who, exactly, is complaining? Besides you, I mean.

It appears that you feel the government should have hundreds of oil drilling experts on hand at all times, ready to jump. I dare say, if there were no oil spill, you'd be whinging about the government employing useless oil rig scientists when it should be focusing on running the country during this period of intense global economic and cultural conflict.

How can they regulate or inspect rigs if they have no knowledge. Does this mean the government is at fault because they have no knowledge of rigs and so do not know what to inspect?

Your questions are patently absurd. Do you know how dumb you sound?

Obama can not have it both ways. Sounds more like a copout to me

Sounds more like you bashing a president you don't like, for any reason you can dream up, to me. :roll:
 
Your questions are patently absurd. Do you know how dumb you sound?
Your answers are kool-aid approved. Do you know how like a Obamabot partisan hack you sound?

Sounds more like you bashing a president you don't like, for any reason you can dream up, to me. :roll:
Yeah asking for leadership on a disaster like this from the President is wayyyy over the top. You're right.


:failpail:
 
Twenty years is not acceptable, especially when it looks like this could have been prevented, had BP followed proper procedures.



BP, and the Government, who leased them the rights to drill there, who also were supposed to have a plan in place to mitigate such a disaster, who also inspected and certified this rig as "Safe"....
 
Your answers are kool-aid approved. Do you know how like a Obamabot partisan hack you sound?

Yeah asking for leadership on a disaster like this from the President is wayyyy over the top. You're right.

The guy in charge of the Coast Guard's effort's was on tv this morning. He said he was called an hour and a half after the accident occurred. He's been on this ever since. Obama has been on this since day 1 also!

How's THAT for leadership? :doh
 
BP, and the Government, who leased them the rights to drill there, who also were supposed to have a plan in place to mitigate such a disaster, who also inspected and certified this rig as "Safe"....

Another BP lover. :roll: It's already been shown that MMS was in bed, literally!, with BP. THAT relationship is being dissolved and MMS is being restructured to kick out the Cheeney droids.
 
Another BP lover. :roll: It's already been shown that MMS was in bed, literally!, with BP. THAT relationship is being dissolved and MMS is being restructured to kick out the Cheeney droids.




Please, you are embarrassing yourself. Blaming all parties involved is not a "BP lover". Stop it, its foolish of you to engage me with these silly antics of yours.
 
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