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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Wildlife still exposed to Exxon Valdez oil 20 years after disaster

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    Your minimizing of the Valdez, and now the Horizon leak, is one big
    14,500 ducks strong doesn't sound like a problem to me.

    I think you're both right: it's not 100% cleaned up but it is well within tolerance for the local wildlife.

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    coast guard commandant, up to his bootstraps in oil and sand while obama's birkenstocks are kept bothersomely on bp's bruised neck, said on cnn's state of the union this morning that he "would not rule out" this thing continuing to gush into august

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Wildlife still exposed to Exxon Valdez oil 20 years after disaster

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    Your minimizing of the Valdez, and now the Horizon leak, is one big
    Uh, no. If you had bothered to even read your own article and coupled it with the information already presented, you would realize that 1300 square miles reduced to 20 acres is a dramatic drop in the contaminated area. Further, residual oil exposure was all that the test quantified. It made no quantification of the effects of that exposure nor did it quantify any damage. Because there really isn't anymore damage.

    The exposure that those few thousand ducks suffer is about the same as any animal in any moderate sized harbor or marine traffic lane.

    You can be snarky and throw up your picture trolling and create your own little childish scoreboards all you want, but the facts speak for themselves. You are flat out wrong about where Valdez is today and you are only doggedly and moronically clinging to the argument because you cannot deny the fact that I am right: the gulf will get better just like Valdez has.

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    it's not 100% cleaned up but it is well within tolerance for the local wildlife.
    That's basically all I've said all along despite ADK's caterwauling that it is anything but. It always amuses me how his type can zero in on one small facet of research while having no concept of just how complex and resilient ecosystems really are.

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    In the last year, yes. It is in Alaska in case you are geographically illiterate.

    Edit: I lied. It's been two years yesterday that I was in Alaska and, specifically, Valdez.
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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And this is just the beginning. Before this ends, much of the Gulf Coast may be completely sterilized of life.

    Let's get beyond the political here. This is the beginning of a major loss of pristine wetlands. So sad. In the future, we need to make sure that we never forget what happened here, and we need to do whatever it takes to keep an incident like this from ever happening again. There is no Liberal or Conservative side here - Only America the Beautiful, and damn it, keeping it beautiful should be our number one priority. Drill? OK, but follow the damn safety rules, and make sure that those who don't never have the opportunity to drill there again. No excuses, absolutely no excuses. This is a damn disgrace.

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    There are billions of barrels pumped without an instance. This was an accident and one difficult to solve it seems.

    I have no doubt the areas affected will recover. Life is very resilient, sea water aggressive in nature, and the US pretty decent at cleaning up messes.

    It will change peoples lives, but the area will recover ecologically.

    It's an accident, a shame as most are, but not a disgrace. I have no doubt the BP folks are furiously trying to put it right. It's in their interest.

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    What is Prince William Sound? Alex.
    It's the sound that runs east around inside the Kenai Peninsula then down around south to about Cordova. Some people say Egg Islands is part of the sound but some don't. It's pretty much blocked in by Hawkins, Hinchinbrook, and Montague Islands.

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well it pretty much ruined the economy there for about 10 years. And the people of Valdez were in a big suit with Exxon for a long time, though I think that's been settled now.

    I find it so funny that people minimize the effect of Valdez just to try to magnify the effect of the Gulf spill. It was TEH HORRORZ when it happened back in '89 but now everyone is saying "oh it wasn't that bad".


    Just goes to prove my point that this, too, will pass.
    It's this kind of head-in-the-sand attitude that I was responding to. YOU think it's ok to "pretty much ruin the economy" for ten years Seriously? The impact on the economy on the south, and maybe southeast, coast will probably be much worse than the Valdez created.

    Who the hell is saying "oh it wasn't that bad"

    Your minimizing of this disaster is embarrasing.
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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    YOU think it's ok to "pretty much ruin the economy" for ten years Seriously?
    Link to where anyone said that?
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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Link to where anyone said that?
    What, you thought I made up that quote from jall?

    Check out post #47.
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