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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Big sis today spent an hour talking about how BP has a disaster and BP has oil flowing and BP isnt doing enough and how the fed is already creating an independent team to decide how much to penalize BP because BP is letting the oil get to the shores and BP hasnt stopped the oil from reaching the marshes and BP hasnt contained anything...


    umm...


    Oil is still flowing. Oil is still reaching shores and choking industry. But the fed is by golly watching.

    Now can you just IMAGINE what would have been the response if Bush had said Katrina was terrible and we are watching to see how bad Nagin has failed and how bad the state has failed and we are just going to wait for 40 days and then we will know who to punish for failing to provide for and protect their citizens...

    or like Clinton's FEMA director had said...well..we'd like to get in there...but golly...theres sure a lot of water...but...in the next few weeks...well..then you should see a lot of action...5-6 weeks tops...

    Like I said...this thread speaks volumes...about you.
    I think I see a disconnect in the points you guys are making and the question at hand.

    The difference between the BP spill and Katrina is that the federal government is/was much better prepared to take care of an incident like a massive hurricane than it is prepared to deal with a much more technical issue like a deep sea oil rig explosion.


    In the case of Katrina, the federal government had the experts on hand to deal with Katrina. FEMA should of been able to put protocol in place quicker than they did to deal with the situation, at the direction of the President.

    In regards to BP, BP has the experts, they are much more familiar with deep sea drilling than anyone in the Obama administration. The Obama administration's role in all of this should be to give support in any way they can based on requests from the Coast Guard, National Guard, Governors and the BP experts. Along with providing strict oversight to ensure that everything that can be done is being done (which is hard without experts.) They aren't doing enough of this in my opinion.

    If anyone should take a fall for this, besides BP, it is the Interior Secretary, whom I believe wasn't pushing BP hard enough after the spill to gather correct information to give to the President to make a decision.


    It's a tough situation, because you can pressure BP to meet deadlines and come up with solutions, but at the end of the day you can't push them aside due to the fact there is no other viable alternative.
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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    obama's taking off those boots which he's been keeping on bp's bruised neck since day one

    and he's putting on his birkenstocks

    cuz he's going back ON VACATION!

    Obamas' visit back home leaves Chicagoans guessing - Chicago Breaking News

    maybe some whitewater rafting on the grand canyon?

    Obamas take a weekend break from Washington

    from day 5 to day 7, according to the WASHINGTON POST, the obamas spent a lovely respite in the carolina back country

    18 holes, a little fishing fishing after nitefall, a cool hike in the blue ridge...

    how idyllic

    good for you, barry!

    just stay away from new orleans on mardi gras
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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    obama's taking off those boots which he's been keeping on bp's bruised neck since day one

    and he's putting on his birkenstocks

    cuz he's going back ON VACATION!

    Obamas' visit back home leaves Chicagoans guessing - Chicago Breaking News

    maybe some whitewater rafting on the grand canyon?

    Obamas take a weekend break from Washington

    from day 5 to day 7, according to the WASHINGTON POST, the obamas spent a lovely respite in the carolina back country

    18 holes, a little fishing fishing after nitefall, a cool hike in the blue ridge...

    how idyllic

    good for you, barry!

    just stay away from new orleans on mardi gras
    I'm willing to give that to the President. They deal with a world of **** we never hear about and never get a day off even on their vacation.

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    it looks bad

    36 days, 11 hours, 22 minutes, 14 seconds...

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    it looks bad

    36 days, 11 hours, 22 minutes, 14 seconds...
    Let me know when it gets to 261 days

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    it looks bad

    36 days, 11 hours, 22 minutes, 14 seconds...
    Obama's been in office a little longer than that....


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    I like Obama stepping aside and letting BP go to the people who's lives their negligence ****ed up and taking heat for it.

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    I'm still waiting for your proof that Obama did nothing for 40 days.

    We'll talk about sad after that.
    You model it...there is no need to talk about it.

    What they HAVENT done is glaringly obvious to anyone except a myopic Lewinsky type. But you keep asking that negative...thats a little like me asking you...so do you have PROOF your dad isnt still turning tricks at the Y for your lunch money?

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Let me know when it gets to 261 days
    i won't have to, silly

    it's wall to wall

    RCP - Media Watch - NBC, ABC, CBS All Lead With Lack Of Government Involvement In Oil Spill

    36 days, 11 hours, 32 minutes, 14 seconds...

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i won't have to, silly

    it's wall to wall

    RCP - Media Watch - NBC, ABC, CBS All Lead With Lack Of Government Involvement In Oil Spill

    36 days, 11 hours, 32 minutes, 14 seconds...
    OK, so let me know when 261 days has passed.

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    Re: Oil Creeps Deeper Into Delicate Marshes

    Quote Originally Posted by Polynikes View Post
    I think I see a disconnect in the points you guys are making and the question at hand.

    The difference between the BP spill and Katrina is that the federal government is/was much better prepared to take care of an incident like a massive hurricane than it is prepared to deal with a much more technical issue like a deep sea oil rig explosion.


    In the case of Katrina, the federal government had the experts on hand to deal with Katrina. FEMA should of been able to put protocol in place quicker than they did to deal with the situation, at the direction of the President.

    In regards to BP, BP has the experts, they are much more familiar with deep sea drilling than anyone in the Obama administration. The Obama administration's role in all of this should be to give support in any way they can based on requests from the Coast Guard, National Guard, Governors and the BP experts. Along with providing strict oversight to ensure that everything that can be done is being done (which is hard without experts.) They aren't doing enough of this in my opinion.

    If anyone should take a fall for this, besides BP, it is the Interior Secretary, whom I believe wasn't pushing BP hard enough after the spill to gather correct information to give to the President to make a decision.


    It's a tough situation, because you can pressure BP to meet deadlines and come up with solutions, but at the end of the day you can't push them aside due to the fact there is no other viable alternative.
    Seriously? BP is THE only alternative? The federal government doesnt have others? So it is entirely acceptable for the government to sit back and say...welll..gee...its BPs mess...their responsiblity...what do you want US to do???

    And Bush gets eviscerated because even tho FEMA was in Mississippi within 24 hours, they took all of THREE DAYS (not the 5 weeks Clintons FEMA took to respond to Floyd) to start fixing the mess left by nagin and Blanco?

    Bull****. This is ALL about political ideology. A year from now people will still be excusing the governments inaction. Gibbs will still be making idiotic glib statements during press conferences. And it will somehow ALL be someone elses fault. Because man...doing that president thing is HARD...

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