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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mango View Post
    Are you starting to get the message Arizona?
    What, you mean this message?

    More Americans Favor Than Oppose Arizona Immigration Law
    PRINCETON, NJ -- More than three-quarters of Americans have heard about the state of Arizona's new immigration law, and of these, 51% say they favor it and 39% oppose it.

    Or maybe this message?

    Wide support for Arizona immigration law: poll - Yahoo! News
    Some 73 percent of those surveyed said they approved of the provision which requires people to provide proof of their legal status, compared with 23 percent who disapproved.

    A further 67 percent were in favor of allowing police to detain anyone unable to verify their legal status, while 62 percent supported police having the power to question anyone they believed may in the country illegally.

    Overall, 59 percent of respondents approved of the Arizona law while 32 percent disapproved, the study found.

    Yeah, I certainly hope they got those messages.

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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    We aren't talking about a regular Joe sir. We are talking about the head of ICE refusing to do the job he swore to uphold.

    I know how you feel. I feel the same way about the Police Dept sometimes.

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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Wait, so the government will not enforce federal law because they hate the AZ immigration law? How immature. They seriously care more about partisan politics and hate Republicans more than they care about enforcing our laws.

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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Mango View Post
    I know how you feel. I feel the same way about the Police Dept sometimes.
    What does that have to do with the subject?
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Wait, so the government will not enforce federal law because they hate the AZ immigration law? How immature. They seriously care more about partisan politics and hate Republicans more than they care about enforcing our laws.
    Like the unicorn BTW. I'am all for enforcing laws. However, my main problem with this Arizona law is the very real danger it could lead to profiling. I hate being profiled. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. . If an illegal commits a crime in Arizona, what was to stop the LEO from asking for an id in the first place. Huh? This law is unnecassary. Do it Arizona. Just dont touch ANY of my rights as a citizen.

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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Wait, so the government will not enforce federal law because they hate the AZ immigration law? How immature. They seriously care more about partisan politics and hate Republicans more than they care about enforcing our laws.
    State leaders to federal government: "You're telling me that all we had to do to get you to not enforce your laws was pass our own versions that you don't like? JACKPOT."
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    What does that have to do with the subject?
    We were talking about law enforcement doing their job and only their job.

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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Just because SOME illegal immigrants have killed people doesn't mean that they're ALL a threat to you. That is the same moronic, racist reasoning that white supremacists use about black people.
    Accusing people of being racist, or comparing them to racists, simply because you disagree with their political positions is the height of laziness, not to mention disingenuous. It really is getting old.
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Accusing people of being racist, or comparing them to racists, simply because you disagree with their political positions is the height of laziness, not to mention disingenuous. It really is getting old.
    Not all people who agree with the Arizona law are racist. The majority of them are good, honest, hard working people. However, a small minority of them are racist, and sadly, the small minority are grouped with the majority. Sucks dont it.

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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Except I wasn't talking about the ones already here. I was talking about continuing illegal immigration, which you said wasn't a threat. Should we not check people at the border to make sure it's safe to allow them to enter? If yes, then you're admitting that there is at least some level of threat in illegal immigration.
    Sure, just like there is some danger from native-born citizens, some danger from legal immigrants, some danger from nurses, some danger from people wearing green shirts, some danger from people who like pizza, and some danger from people who enjoy skiing. Surely SOME of them are criminals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav
    Then maybe they could migrate, you know... legally.
    You know (or at least you SHOULD know) full well that legal immigration to the United States is very complicated and limited. When you suggest that, you know full well that you are telling most of them "get out and don't ever come back." You could at least be honest, instead of pretending to care about the immigration process itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav
    You could also replace it with "criminals". Just because some sex offenders repeat offend doesn't mean the whole group is a threat, right?
    Correct. I'm sure some of them are not threats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav
    There's another important thing to, which is that if they immigrated illegally, there was obviously a reason for them not taking the legal route. Many of them probably can't handle the insane bureaucracy of it, and for them I have sympathy, knowing a family in a similar situation. But the rest obviously have something they don't want our authorities to know... thus, as a whole, illegal immigrants are much more of a threat than any racial group you can point to.

    You don't get to invent silly explanations just because first acknowledge (and casually dismiss) the real explanation. I bolded the correct assessment of the situation in your statement above. Full stop. Everything after that is just baseless nonsense.
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