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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    How?



    Linking to a bunch of articles about illegal immigrants killing people is no different than linking to a bunch of articles about black people killing people. It's the same faulty logic.
    Complete bull****.

    You can't equate laws against race vs laws on nationality.
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Complete bull****.

    You can't equate laws against race vs laws on nationality.
    It's the same moronic blame-the-entire-group-for-the-actions-of-a-few mentality.
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It's the same moronic blame-the-entire-group-for-the-actions-of-a-few mentality.
    Not all illegals are Hispanic.

    Thank you for displaying your ignorance by misusing the race card once again.
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    The Democrats enjoy a Latino advantage, but the Republicans have a few bastions, particuarly among Cuban 'exiles', and there is potential to have far more since Latinos originate from relatively 'traditional' cultures -- notably, they are heavily Catholic, and while there are significant numbers of liberal Catholics, a majority are socially conservative. As with Muslims, the Latino preference for Democrats emerges from perceptions that democrats/liberals are more welcoming and sympathetic to the challenges they face, although in the case of Muslims it is probable more 'liberal' Muslims immigrate to the United States, as a general rule. In essence, the jockeying for the Latino vote is a close game with the ball in the Democrats' court. The national Republican desire to solve the illegal immigration dilemma is complicated by a desire not to permanently alienante the Hispanic vote; they might never get a majority of it, but they can at least approach half, which is way better than another racial minority (aka, blacks) practically voting a straight Democrat ticket, especially when, one way or another, that racial minority is becoming the second largest ethnic population in the country. And the Democrats don't want to ruin what is sure to be a solid electoral advantage for them in the future.

    End result, the federal government is ineffectual in solving the immigration dilemma. I don't blame Arizona for taking action, considering the gravity of the situation, although I don't think the policy is a particularly good one.
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    How?
    Key word: illegal immigration. If you don't see what's wrong with people entering the country without anyone knowing or making sure they aren't a criminal or terrorist or something, I'm not sure what else to say.

    Linking to a bunch of articles about illegal immigrants killing people is no different than linking to a bunch of articles about black people killing people. It's the same faulty logic.
    No because the black people had every right to be here, while the illegals should never have been allowed to come in the first place. We should be making sure people aren't criminals before we let them enter the country. This is true with all races and nationalities, and comparing the desire to do so with racism has no logical basis.
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It's the same moronic blame-the-entire-group-for-the-actions-of-a-few mentality.
    What part of "illegal" do you not understand? This is not something they were born with.

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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Key word: illegal immigration. If you don't see what's wrong with people entering the country without anyone knowing or making sure they aren't a criminal or terrorist or something, I'm not sure what else to say.
    If they commit a crime (a REAL crime, not just the immigration violation) then by all means deport them. As for terrorists, I'm unaware of any madrassas springing up in Aguascalientes or Mexico City. When that happens, perhaps I'll take notice or care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav
    No because the black people had every right to be here, while the illegals should never have been allowed to come in the first place. We should be making sure people aren't criminals before we let them enter the country.
    Ideally, yes. But that isn't a sufficient reason for shutting off the spigot of migrant workers. Most of them do not cause any problems; they took the initiative to come here in the first place, which means that they tend to be hard workers and don't want to do anything to jeopardize their new life.

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    This is true with all races and nationalities, and comparing the desire to do so with racism has no logical basis.
    I stated that illegal immigrants are not a threat, and Texmaster responded by linking to a list of people killed by illegal immigrants. The clear implication of that is "See, they ARE a threat."

    That is EXACTLY the same logic that white supremacists use about black people. You could literally just replace "blacks" with "illegal immigrants" in the previous paragraph, without the meaning changing AT ALL.
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I stated that illegal immigrants are not a threat, and Texmaster responded by linking to a list of people killed by illegal immigrants. The clear implication of that is "See, they ARE a threat."
    Because SOME ARE.

    You denied ANY are a threat. The ignorance in your thought process was amazing.

    That is EXACTLY the same logic that white supremacists use about black people. You could literally just replace "blacks" with "illegal immigrants" in the previous paragraph, without the meaning changing AT ALL.
    Once again the main point you have cowardly ducked over and over again is that not all illegals are of one race.


    Your pathetic attempt at the race card is an epic failure when you deal with the reality of the racial makeup of illegal immigrants.
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Per your article:



    The AZ law will be a test case. I think it's an imperfect one-size-fits-all approach that may run into problems with even the most conservative of Federal courts.

    Also, per the article "may"...
    The problem is not the courts at this point, it is an extremely PARTISAN response from the Feds in Washington. Pathetic.
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    Re: Top Official Says Feds May Not Process Illegals Referred From Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The federal government is under no obligation to enforce any laws it doesn't want to enforce.
    Especially when such enforcement goes against their petty partisan desires...
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