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    Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    Reporting from Washington The Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday set June 28 as the start date for hearings on Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan, and asked the Clinton presidential library to turn over voluminous documents related to Kagan's time as a top presidential assistant in the 1990s.

    But Terri Garner, director of the William J. Clinton Presidential Library and Museum, said in an interview Wednesday that it would be "very difficult" for her facility to meet the deadline. She said the records request is overly broad and "too general in scope" and that, under the Presidential Records Act, attorneys for both Clinton and President Obama have the right to read and review each document before it is released to the committee.

    "There are just too many things here," she said. "These are legal documents and they are presidential records, and they have to be read by an archivist and vetted for any legal restrictions. And they have to be read line by line."

    Senate Judiciary Committee requests documents on Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan - latimes.com


    I mean arghhhhhhh!!!!!! What the heck is going on here? We have bills that are thousands of pages that no one reads. Now it seems too much trouble to vet an incoming SCOTUS nominee? Can we now label this administration as the least transparent in history?


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    Re: Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    So she hasn't ever really done anything in the courtroom, and it's too much trouble to look into what she did as a presidential assistant.....

    So what do we do? Make sure she's current with her Blockbuster account?

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    Re: Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So she hasn't ever really done anything in the courtroom, and it's too much trouble to look into what she did as a presidential assistant.....

    So what do we do? Make sure she's current with her Blockbuster account?

    Well, I guess we just have to forego the usual process and just install her in.....


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    Re: Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    Well the only reasonable thing to do is to delay the appointment until the lawyers read, line by line, all the material and release it. Maybe that'll take a few years. I'm fine with that. This should not go through without reading and making available all the materials she has produced. This BS delay tactic is about as stupid of an excuse as I've ever heard. Couldn't they simply say "The dog ate it all"?
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    Re: Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    No resume right?...... No problem, we're used to that.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I mean arghhhhhhh!!!!!! What the heck is going on here? We have bills that are thousands of pages that no one reads. Now it seems too much trouble to vet an incoming SCOTUS nominee? Can we now label this administration as the least transparent in history?


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    It seems they are willing to provide the documents but need time to read through and black out anything that isn't relevant to the request.

    Would you suggest that the Presidential records just be handed over to the public without knowing what exactly is in them?
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    Re: Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I mean arghhhhhhh!!!!!! What the heck is going on here? We have bills that are thousands of pages that no one reads. Now it seems too much trouble to vet an incoming SCOTUS nominee? Can we now label this administration as the least transparent in history?
    Excuse me, but how exactly does this relate to the transparency of the Obama administration? That last sentence of your post doesn't relate to anything in the article.

    The Nominee has been vetted to the President's satisfaction. Hence the nomination.

    On the surface, this looks like a weak tactic by the ranking member of the judiciary panel to drag out the hearings by making an overly broad request for documents.

    This notion that a judicial nominee is not qualified simply because we believe he/she may make decisions that are not in line with our political agenda and philosophy is neither a check nor a balance.

    The President gets to appoint judges. The qualifications should be a keen legal mind, the ability to listen to complex legal arguments, ask relevant questions, converse with the other justices, and write decisions when tasked to do so.

    The request was made to the Clinton Library. The President doesn't work there. No one from the administration works there. The article says the library has asked for help sorting through the archives. So, why doesn't the judiciary panel send people from both sides to help? Then the ranking member can STFU and do his job--advise and consent. The WH doesn't need to lift a finger to help. It's truly fascinating watching the far-righties do summersaults and flips, stretching so hard and so far to relate everything back to the President.

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    Re: Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Excuse me, but how exactly does this relate to the transparency of the Obama administration? That last sentence of your post doesn't relate to anything in the article.

    The Nominee has been vetted to the President's satisfaction. Hence the nomination.

    On the surface, this looks like a weak tactic by the ranking member of the judiciary panel to drag out the hearings by making an overly broad request for documents.

    This notion that a judicial nominee is not qualified simply because we believe he/she may make decisions that are not in line with our political agenda and philosophy is neither a check nor a balance.

    The President gets to appoint judges. The qualifications should be a keen legal mind, the ability to listen to complex legal arguments, ask relevant questions, converse with the other justices, and write decisions when tasked to do so.

    The request was made to the Clinton Library. The President doesn't work there. No one from the administration works there. The article says the library has asked for help sorting through the archives. So, why doesn't the judiciary panel send people from both sides to help? Then the ranking member can STFU and do his job--advise and consent. The WH doesn't need to lift a finger to help. It's truly fascinating watching the far-righties do summersaults and flips, stretching so hard and so far to relate everything back to the President.
    Excuse Us if we would like to know just a little of how this woman thinks before we give her a lifetime appointment! Or should we just take Barry's word for it?


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    Re: Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Excuse Us if we would like to know just a little of how this woman thinks before we give her a lifetime appointment! Or should we just take Barry's word for it?


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    What does Obama have to do with the Clinton Library stating that it will take time to go through all the documents before they can be handed over?
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    Re: Senate panel asks Clinton library to turn over documents on Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    What does Obama have to do with the Clinton Library stating that it will take time to go through all the documents before they can be handed over?

    Overtly? I have no idea. But I don't trust this President as far as I can throw him. I would not put it past him to get on the horn and tell them to bury anything damaging.


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