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Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

Exactly, and it took that long because FDR did the same stupid **** Obama is doing.

In fact, FDR's policies made the situation far worse, and it took the post-war overseas contracts (which shifted Eurpopean wealth to the U.S.) to get us on track again.

What Obama is doing is prolonging the problem, not helping it.

..... and your solution is?????? I have yet to hear a plausible alternative to what was done in '08-09, just a lot of criticism.
 
ask mr critz
 
You are so behind, I already showed how it was constitutional, go back a couple of pages.

So you demand I find you the evidence. I find it then you proclaim victory without addressing it.

Par for the course.
 
It's really sad to see that for some on the right all they have left is to cheer for a blue-dog Democrat victory.


"That Democrats held onto a House seat Tuesday night in a conservative corner of Pennsylvania casts new doubt on just how strong the much-vaunted GOP momentum truly is heading into the November midterm elections." - The Hill

"After all, if they can't win the only district in the country that voted for both John Kerry and John McCain, what does it say about their ability to win other GOP-tilting seats this fall?" - Amy Walters of National Journal

"Both sides see the race as a must-win but, in truth, it is a muster-win for Republicans who have to prove they can emerge victorious in seats like this one -- Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) carried it in 2008 -- to make a reasonable case that the majority is in play this fall." - Chris Cilizza, political columnist for the Washington Post

“The defeat of Republican Tim Burns in the Pennsylvania 12th district special election obviously is the biggest blow to the GOP, which hoped to show the existence of an early wave building against Democrats and President Barack Obama." - Stu Rothenberg, Roll Call


This is just the latest setback for Rep. Pete Sessions and the NRCC, after head-to-head losses in NY-23 - a Republican held seat for over a century - and NY-20 - considered a safe Republican seat until it was won by Kirsten Gillibrand in 2006. Brown's victory in MA? I've already seen him called a RINO on these very pages...LOL


“It sure dampens our enthusiasm, there’s no other way to say it,” - Jeff Flake (R-AZ)

Hang in there Jeff, you're sure to pick up a few seats in November, maybe you can attend a Gingrich pep rally, he says you'll take back both the Senate and House.
 
Tom Davis (ex-VA Rep.): "If you can’t win a seat that is trending Republican in a year like this, then where is the wave?" asked Mr. Davis, who said Republicans will need to examine what went wrong. "It would be a huge upset not to win this seat.""


It seems that all the GOP quotes prior to the election was that this would be a bellwether race and would show that the GOP would win huge in November; now, with the exception of a few honest GOP observers (like the quote above), they all want to claim it's nothing and meaningless.

You can't have it both ways.
 
Tom Davis (ex-VA Rep.): "If you can’t win a seat that is trending Republican in a year like this, then where is the wave?" asked Mr. Davis, who said Republicans will need to examine what went wrong. "It would be a huge upset not to win this seat.""


It seems that all the GOP quotes prior to the election was that this would be a bellwether race and would show that the GOP would win huge in November; now, with the exception of a few honest GOP observers (like the quote above), they all want to claim it's nothing and meaningless.

You can't have it both ways.





hmm, what is Tom Davis's username here. :ssst:
 
who's celebrating?

he opposed health care, he opposed cap and trade, the no-name who knocked off 28 year vet mollohan in wva opposed obamacare cuz of its "public funding of abortion"

obama is 0-fer in his endorsements, whomever he touches trembles

ask ms lincoln

that's why reg reform is arrested

it is what it is

congrats, i guess

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you can't have it both ways---he ran AGAINST the president's prize pieces

benedict arlen he reached out and touched

just like martha, creigh and new jersey governor corzine

congrats!

seeya in november

seeya in hawaii saturday, mr abercrombie's seat
 
The fact is this:

Democrats know that the way to win in conservative districts is not to run a liberal. There are still conservative Democrats out there, after all.

Republicans, being purists, insist on running only the most conservative candidates, which will never get them elected in liberal areas. There are no liberal Republicans any more.

So what happened in this election? The people, when given a choice between two conservative candidates, chose the Democrat. Why? Because poll after poll shows that while they distrust both parties, they distrust Republicans even more.

Backpedaling and pretending that the GOP never claimed they would win this and then trying to explain it away by saying "he's a conservative" cannot negate the fact that a Democrat won.

The predictions of a great Republican takeover just haven't happened. (In fact, of the last 4 special elections, Democrats have won all of them.)
 
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the fact is---for a dem to win in a 2 to 1 blue district he has to proclaim prominently his opposition to the president's pets

at least in may of 2010, that is

it is what it is
 
the fact is---for a dem to win in a 2 to 1 blue district he has to proclaim prominently his opposition to the president's pets

at least in may of 2010, that is

it is what it is

This does not change the fact that the Republican party for more than a month prior to the election proclaimed this would be a Republican victory, and a harbinger for a Republican landslide in the fall. THIS is the genie the GOP let out of the bottle, and as hard as they try to put it back in the bottle, it's not going to happen. The GOP made a blunder with this, and it shows that, if they want more than very modest gains this fall, they are going to have to work hard instead of just mouthing off.
 
This does not change the fact that the Republican party for more than a month prior to the election proclaimed this would be a Republican victory, and a harbinger for a Republican landslide in the fall. THIS is the genie the GOP let out of the bottle, and as hard as they try to put it back in the bottle, it's not going to happen. The GOP made a blunder with this, and it shows that, if they want more than very modest gains this fall, they are going to have to work hard instead of just mouthing off.




I disagree. I think this defeat is minimal given the other canidates right wing beliefs. :shrug:
 
whether republicans physically capture either or both houses really isn't gonna matter much

if we don't take em, reds will come close

which is just as good

he already lacks the votes he needs to win reg reform, climate, immigration

indeed, the party in power can't even PROPOSE A BUDGET

LOL!

and that's with FIFTY NINE senators and a 40 seat plurality for ms pelosi

if the palsied speakeress loses 30 or so seats, there're gonna be an awful lot of D's who don't dare, in addition

there already are

mr critz only makes one more

(mr oliverio would be another except he's probably gonna lose his general)

question: how do you think america is gonna react when the entire nation learns this summer that the party in power---IN TIMES LIKE THESE---cannot even put forth A BUDGET?

Next year's budget sinking in deep red ink - The Hill's On The Money

Hoyer: Dems might not pass a budget - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

party on, progressives

represent
 
This does not change the fact that the Republican party for more than a month prior to the election proclaimed this would be a Republican victory.

link, please?
 
I disagree. I think this defeat is minimal given the other canidates right wing beliefs. :shrug:

But here is the key - This is NOT what the talking heads were saying prior to the election. They were saying the exact opposite.
 
I disagree. I think this defeat is minimal given the other canidates right wing beliefs. :shrug:

A good argument can be made that you are correct. HOWEVER, and this is the point that keeps getting avoided or ignored, these comments are all being made AFTER the loss. Prior to the loss, we were being told that this would be a GOP victory and would prove that the GOP would make great gains in the fall. NOW suddenly there are reasons as to why this didn't happen.

It's the changing the story that is the problem. You can't claim "this will be an important election" and then after you lose pretend you never said that. The GOP never should have made that claim, basically.
 
A good argument can be made that you are correct. HOWEVER, and this is the point that keeps getting avoided or ignored, these comments are all being made AFTER the loss. Prior to the loss, we were being told that this would be a GOP victory and would prove that the GOP would make great gains in the fall. NOW suddenly there are reasons as to why this didn't happen.

It's the changing the story that is the problem. You can't claim "this will be an important election" and then after you lose pretend you never said that. The GOP never should have made that claim, basically.




by whom? I heard some speculation, sure. However we have to look deeper into this.


Critz was more attractive period. he embodied heck, most of the Tea party principles and was a better canidate than burns....

almost identical.
 
Prior to the loss, we were being told that this would be a GOP victory and would prove that the GOP would make great gains in the fall.

link, please?
 
link, please?

No. Do your own damn research. I mean, Jesus, if you weren't paying attention that's not my fault. That's like asking for links when someone says "Obama is President." It's all over the place.

You disagree that people didn't say that? OK, link please?
 
Prior to the loss, we were being told that this would be a GOP victory and would prove that the GOP would make great gains in the fall.

simply not the case, sorry
 
Groucho said:
Prior to the loss, we were being told that this would be a GOP victory and would prove that the GOP would make great gains in the fall.

link, please?

Really? Ya want a link to conservatives saying this?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...op-repeal-health-care-law.html#post1058723649
reds are gonna take the house, count on it

progressives got problems

on may 18 we're gonna replace jack murtha, the second most corrupt man after rangel in dc

the DAILY KOS has republican tim burns leading by six

pa12 is the only district in the nation to vote for jfkerry in 04 and maverick mccain in 08

it's the countryside north of pittsburg, it's catholic, it's coal

it's racist, according to murtha

'Rednecks' cracks may cost Murtha - Josh Kraushaar - POLITICO.com

whether it's prejudiced or not, obama is very unpopular there, his unfavorables leading his positives by 55 to 38

Special election for Murtha's seat tilts toward the GOP - The Hill's Ballot Box

about 30% feel STRONGLY unfavorable towards the fool

western pennsylvanians want health care REPEALED by a margin of 48 to 34

all this, according to KOS!

kos polling was the only national outfit to get MARTHA COAKLEY wrong!

LOL!

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we're gonna take murtha's seat, tuesday, may 18, watch for it

we're gonna take the house

we're gonna completely overturn obamacare, we're gonna have a MANDATE
I watched for it. It didn't happen.
 
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