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I consider that a good thing about the Democrats. Republicans as they are now aren't needed. We can have a full scale discussion and all sides are represented. We have the pro gun people, the prolifers, the fiscally conservative, the liberal etc.
During the healthcare debate there was a full on debate amongst democrats without any republican help. We debated abortion, the public option, single payer, being fiscally conservative (which is why Obama wanted a budget neutral plan, cause many dem's are fiscally conservative and wouldn't vote for something that inflates the budget), etc.
Meanwhile the Republicans had to resort to making up crap like killing granny and death panels. That was the extent of their debate.
Problem is with liberals results don't matter for it is all about the rhetoric but only rhetoric that supports the leftwing point of view. This is a Center Right country, not a far left country that Disneydude and others want to make it. The American people are overwhelmingly against bailouts, national healthcare, massive govt. expansion yet that doesn't deter arrogant liberals from pushing on.
Reality is liberalism fails wherever it is tried yet liberal arrogance here believes they can do it better. The poster child for green energy and jobs is Spain with its rising unemployment and massive debt, 2 1/2 jobs lost for every green job created. The liberal argument is they just didn't implement it properly.
Liberals will continue to take us over a cliff