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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That kind of reminds me of the argument "We only torture a little".
    It hasn't been proven that we torture at all or at least State sponsored torture. The misinformation about the Bush Administration is staggering and distorted to promote an agenda. We are seeing today the affects of that misinformation and the election of the disaster we have in the WH.

    Facts never get in the way of some people's opinions and those that want to distort the Bush Agenda do so to divert from the Obama agenda. Bush is gone but instead of challenging Obama it is easier to continue to blame Bush.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This dood is a pro-life, pro-veteran, pro-2nd amendment, pro-deficit reduction.... The only thing missing is a tea party mention.

    I'd have voted for him. For you DD to claim victory here is rather funny.
    Amazing isn't it? We actually have conservative Democrats in our party. There are no more liberal Republicans, of course.

    And of course, he's still more liberal than the Republican who was running in that race. (And since when are "pro-veteran" and pro-deficit reduction conservative-only issues, anyway?)

    The point you guys are all avoiding is this: The GOP claimed that people would vote against all the Democrats and that the GOP would win race after race. That hasn't happened.

    So either admit that the earlier prediction was wrong, or stop trying to make excuses.

    Once more, poll after poll shows two things:

    1. People are angry at incumbents of both parties;

    2. Even though both parties are unpopular, the Republicans are even less popular than the Democrats. A downturn in Democratic support has not resulted in an upturn of Republican support.
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes, oppose Obama's spending policies. That is good, but where the hell were Republicans when Bush was doing the same thing? Calling those who criticized his spending anti-Americans. That's what.

    Hypocrisy cuts both ways too.
    I was. Many of us were. I hated the placating and screw-it approach Bush had his last two years. Detested it.

    He turned into John McCain in front of my eyes, and while I think history will be kind to Bush one day, I will never forget the about-face he took on his way out.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    2. Even though both parties are unpopular, the Republicans are even less popular than the Democrats. A downturn in Democratic support has not resulted in an upturn of Republican support.
    So why are the indpendents running to the right, and just who do you think these tea partiers will be voting for (which includes a lot of independents and even former Democrats).

    Your statement is completely contradicted by the events in Massachusetts, New Jersey, Virginia, Florida, etc.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Amazing isn't it? We actually have conservative Democrats in our party. There are no more liberal Republicans, of course.

    And of course, he's still more liberal than the Republican who was running in that race. (And since when are "pro-veteran" and pro-deficit reduction conservative-only issues, anyway?)

    The point you guys are all avoiding is this: The GOP claimed that people would vote against all the Democrats and that the GOP would win race after race. That hasn't happened.

    So either admit that the earlier prediction was wrong, or stop trying to make excuses.

    Once more, poll after poll shows two things:

    1. People are angry at incumbents of both parties;

    2. Even though both parties are unpopular, the Republicans are even less popular than the Democrats. A downturn in Democratic support has not resulted in an upturn of Republican support.

    Your party is led by Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. What have they done that you support?

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So why are the indpendents running to the right, and just who do you think these tea partiers will be voting for (which includes a lot of independents and even former Democrats).

    Your statement is completely contradicted by the events in Massachusetts, New Jersey, Virginia, Florida, etc.
    And yet you leave off yesterday's elections in Pennsylvania from your list.

    All we've seen really are primaries at this point -- the extremists in either party tend to be the ones who vote, which means you get the more liberal Democrats and the more conservative Republicans winning. Lincoln in Arkansas for instance is facing a challenge from the left, not the right.

    And in the one race that was a special election and not a primary the Democrat won in a conservative district that voted for McCain.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    There have been plenty of threads about Rassmussen, a polling service that always always always tilts conservative, and has conclusions completely separate from all other polls. No one takes these guys serious.

    I instead suggest using pollster.com which averages out all the polls. You get a much better idea of what is really happening. Pollster.com: 2010 National Congressional Ballot

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So why are the indpendents running to the right, and just who do you think these tea partiers will be voting for (which includes a lot of independents and even former Democrats).

    Your statement is completely contradicted by the events in Massachusetts, New Jersey, Virginia, Florida, etc.
    And yours is completely contradicted by the events of Ny and Pa.
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    And yours is completely contradicted by the events of Ny and Pa.
    And the results are in..... The arguments of both sides are contradicted, but neither side is going to admit it either. LOL.
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