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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    and the Republicans lost another head to head race. Doesn't bode well for the supposed landslide they are hoping for.

    I used to live not too far from PA, and had a lot of friends in PA. The 12th district is a heavily gerrymandered district designed to keep Murtha in power indefinitely. All this win shows is that liberals are willing to vote anyone in that has a D behind their name. Values like honesty in campaigning mean nothing to the liars within the demo party. So enjoy your victory, and keep on being who we always knew you were libs.


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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Of course no one likes unemployment and government debt. However, the economy IS growing and unemployment will drop. You forget that it was Republican ideas that got us into this mess and Democrats that once again are going to have to get us out of it.
    Clinton had to do it after Reagan/Bush left us with massive debts.
    It remains to be seen whether Obama can do it. If he can, he deserve the credit....if he can't....then he deserves the blame. Its as simple as that.
    What Republican ideas got us into this Mess? Your party has controlled Congress since January 2007 and nothing Bush did was done without the support of that Congress.

    You are nothing more than a typical Democrat hack, if someone has a D after their name you would vote for them regardless of where they stand on the issues.

    Tell me where the economy is growing? Do you even know the 4 components of GDP? Tell us which ones are growing?

    In less than 2 years Obama has seen unemployment grow to 15 million Americans, debt grow an addition 3 trillion dollars, taken over GM/Chrysler, passed a trillion dollar stimulus plan that has done nothing to stimulate the private sector, passed a healthcare plan that increases the cost of healthcare and does nothing to improve quality or access.

    Yes, this is hope and change we all can believe in and what you show is how truly partisan and out of touch with reality you really are.

    One would have thought with a trillion dollar stimulus plan we would have better results than we have, but any results coming from a liberal is good enough for some people including the massive growth in debt and the size of the govt.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Spin it however you guys want. You cannot change the fact that the GOP lost another race.
    Well keep electing "Democrats" like this, and I'll vote Democrat, too!!

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm not saying that OBama had anything to do with this. I don't recall Obama campaigning much for anyone during this campaign.

    The reality is....Republicans hoped to win this seat and yet again...in a head to head race, they lost.

    Spin it however you guys want. You cannot change the fact that the GOP lost another race.
    Obama campaigned for Specter, he campaigned for Cokely, he campaigned for Corzine, he campaigned in Va and lost them all. Keep burying your head in the sand and showing your true partisan nature when confronted with facts.

    So the answer to the question is Obama campaigns for candidates and they lose. How does that bode well for November?

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Well keep electing "Democrats" like this, and I'll vote Democrat, too!!
    I expect with the GOP purging itself of all moderates, you probably will see more and more moderates heading over to the Democrats...and the Democratic party will probably move further to the right to accept them....
    I would prefer a more liberal Democratic party, however, that's not a reality.
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama campaigned for Specter, he campaigned for Cokely, he campaigned for Corzine, he campaigned in Va and lost them all. Keep burying your head in the sand and showing your true partisan nature when confronted with facts.

    So the answer to the question is Obama campaigns for candidates and they lose. How does that bode well for November?
    That wasn't this cycle...and he didn't campaign for Specter. Specter has relying on old footage.....try again.
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Pro-gun
    Most people run as pro-gun. I'd say that many, if not most, Democrats are pro-gun. The whole idea that Obama is out to get your guns was started up by right wing nutters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Anti-Abortion
    Again, this is isn't a completely uncommon thing for Dems. They run as pro-life but then say something along the lines that they don't want to push their views on others. I don't know how serious he is about it, but it's not uncommon. It's definately not something on the Democrat litmus test, ask Bart Stupak and his group of 12.
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    Reduced the deficit....
    What democrats don't want to reduce the deficit? I'm pretty sure it was Dick Cheney who was the one saying that deficits and debt doesn't matter. We've been having to spend to get out of a recession, though I'm sure you'll disagree with that. (Though you'll notice that when Bush was in office all those Republicans noticed the need to support the economy during hard times too. The only reason they're against it now is because opposition is win win. They get to look conservative. If the economy tanks because we didn't keep it alive, they get to blame Obama, if it starts to come alive like right now and they come out and say it's getting better in spite of Obama's policies, which is laughable considering all the doom and gloom they've spouted since Obama's election.)

    Why are Republicans especially stuck on reducing the deficit right now? Because they handed over a ****ty economy. No politician can slash the budget during a recession. It's politics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    anti-obamacare
    Yeah, I've read a little bit that he said he was against the health care bill, but I can't find him saying anywhere that he'll defund it or vote to repeal it like some people are thinking, unless I just haven't seen where he's said that.

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    Lowe taxes for small buisness
    Yea, just like all other democrats. If he was for eliminating all taxes on millionaires then I think you'd have a better point but Obama did run on lower taxes and came through with that promise. Where has he raised small business taxes?

    House Committee Passes Small Business Tax Cut Bill

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    energy independence.
    Again, another thing Obama and democrats in general are for. Many support drilling and nuclear power, nearly all support investing money in new clean energy and green jobs. This was a focal point of Obama's agenda. The idea that Republicans own the market on energy independence is laughable at best.
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    strong defense
    Again, who are these dem's that want weak defense? Has Obama cut the military budget and I just didn't hear about it?

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    Tell me you would have voted for him too?
    I would have. I wish I could find where he says what he wants on healthcare, referring to maybe a public option or single payer, and a few other issues, but he sounds like a good guy on paper though I haven't followed him closely.

    You'll notice that his opponent ran on repealing healthcare, and he lost. This guy just said he didn't support it. Not extremely telling, but notable none the less.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That wasn't this cycle...and he didn't campaign for Specter. Specter has relying on old footage.....try again.
    LOL, so that wasn't this cycle? what was Obama doing in sending operatives to Pa to promote Specter? You simply are too brainwashed to understand reality.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I expect with the GOP purging itself of all moderates, you probably will see more and more moderates heading over to the Democrats...and the Democratic party will probably move further to the right to accept them....
    I would prefer a more liberal Democratic party, however, that's not a reality.
    I consider that a good thing about the Democrats. Republicans as they are now aren't needed. We can have a full scale discussion and all sides are represented. We have the pro gun people, the prolifers, the fiscally conservative, the liberal etc.

    During the healthcare debate there was a full on debate amongst democrats without any republican help. We debated abortion, the public option, single payer, being fiscally conservative (which is why Obama wanted a budget neutral plan, cause many dem's are fiscally conservative and wouldn't vote for something that inflates the budget), etc.

    Meanwhile the Republicans had to resort to making up crap like killing granny and death panels. That was the extent of their debate.

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