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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Turtledood, tne, how about make the wager the balance of the donations needed that goes to the forum?
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    I am sorry and don't mean to insult any of the lefties or righties but partisan bickering is exactly what the corrupt politicians want you to do while they butt **** your brains out.

    This post does not apply to the Good Reverend.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

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    Why would I put money to people I don't trust to not lie?

    Seriously you claim to have lectured at law schools and expect someone to send $10,000 to someone they don't trust? Gimme a break.

    And your cowardice is noted as well as your fraud and lying.
    you know you would lose so you spew this nonsense. I already told you people on this forum know me personally. And anyone who understands an IPA knows you are blowing smoke out of your six



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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Yes it is true... just check the deptarment of labor and statistics.

    So your 300K supposed jobs created is supposed to outweigh this?:


    WASHINGTON The number of people filing new claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly rose last week by the largest amount in three months. The surge is evidence of how volatile the job market remains, even as the economy grows.

    Applications for unemployment benefits rose to 471,000 last week, up by 25,000 from the previous week, the Labor Department said Thursday. It was the first increase in five weeks and the biggest jump since a gain of 40,000 in February.

    The total was the highest since new claims reached 480,000 on April 10. It also pushed the average for the last four weeks to 453,500.


    Jobless claims rise by largest amount in 3 months - Yahoo! News

    Hmmmm....Let's see here 453K minus 300k leaves a 153K net job loss. How's that a positive?


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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So your 300K supposed jobs created is supposed to outweigh this?:





    Hmmmm....Let's see here 453K minus 300k leaves a 153K net job loss. How's that a positive?


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    Liberal math?

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    I'm not irgnoring the 10th amendment since that only applies to reserved powers. If it is an enumerated power then the federal government has control.
    Wrong again. The 10th Amendment is specific to restricting the powers of the federal government and forcing health care on everyone would be a direct violation of that Amendment.
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    See Texmaster, alls you had to do was go back and read this thread to see how I said the healthcare bill was constitutional. Stop atttempting to use personal attacks to hide the fact that you don't even read the thread you are responding to.
    LOL You really do love repeating the same false claim over and over again don't you?

    You ignored the 10th Amendment restricting the power of the federal government and you bastardized the Constitution claiming your own personal definition of "general welfare" is valid and even after I explained your error you didn't have the courage to address the argument.

    You not only lost, you lost big.

    Next time you demand answers from someone, do the courtesy of addressing their actual argument not pretending to point to an earlier point you claim invalidates it which I proved was laughably wrong.
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Wrong again. The 10th Amendment is specific to restricting the powers of the federal government and forcing health care on everyone would be a direct violation of that Amendment.
    There are two views as to the interpretation on that, but my take is the literal all powers not given to the Federal government belong to the states. In that regard, I agree with you that the states should control their own health care. On the other hand, Social Security, Medicare, etc., would also be unconstitutional with that line of thinking. Honestly? I am not sure which side of the fence I am on regarding some Federal programs, although I am vehemently against Obamacare.
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There are two views as to the interpretation on that, but my take is the literal all powers not given to the Federal government belong to the states. In that regard, I agree with you that the states should control their own health care. On the other hand, Social Security, Medicare, etc., would also be unconstitutional with that line of thinking. Honestly? I am not sure which side of the fence I am on regarding some Federal programs, although I am vehemently against Obamacare.
    Thats why this is so complicated an issue. Both sides believe they are right.

    The argument for social security was that it is a tax. Health care is a required purchase of service and not exclusively from the government thus separating the two instances.
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    My belief is that in order to understand and pull out of the weeds on issues that the Federal Government must, or must not do, you first have to understand that the progressive reading of the commerce clause in today's terms is an unconstitutional one to begin with.


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