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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    mr critz is apparently judging the presidency

    and the WINNER in pa12 keeps saying NO
    So? If you're hero Reagan jumps off a bridge will you?

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Naive? You are the one who wants to judge the effects of Obama's Presidency when they haven't even happened yet! You keep making random and irrelevant statements. And yes, the stimulus will still be affecting America after today, that's why you can't judge his Presidency yet.
    Stop with the rhetoric and get the results, results do matter except to an Obama supporter. BEA.gov, BLS.gov, U.S. Treasury, U.S. Census, basic economics.

    You really are naive and simply don't have any concept as to how much a trillion dollars is. Good Lord, kid, spending over a trillion dollars and getting these kind of results deserves condemnation, not give me more time. 15 million Americans are unemployed up from when he took office, debt is up over 3 trillion dollars in his first 1 1/2 years over what it was when he took office, millions of people are discouraged in trying to find a job, economic growth due to the growth in the size of govt. has reduced govt. revenue and not created any private sector jobs.

    you want to give him time? This is the damage he has done in 1 1/2 years, Can't wait for another 2 1/2 years, can you?

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

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    Stop with the rhetoric and get the results, results do matter except to an Obama supporter. BEA.gov, BLS.gov, U.S. Treasury, U.S. Census, basic economics.

    You really are naive and simply don't have any concept as to how much a trillion dollars is. Good Lord, kid, spending over a trillion dollars and getting these kind of results deserves condemnation, not give me more time. 15 million Americans are unemployed up from when he took office, debt is up over 3 trillion dollars in his first 1 1/2 years over what it was when he took office, millions of people are discouraged in trying to find a job, economic growth due to the growth in the size of govt. has reduced govt. revenue and not created any private sector jobs.

    you want to give him time? This is the damage he has done in 1 1/2 years, Can't wait for another 2 1/2 years, can you?
    Fixing the economy in 1 1/2 years was an impossible task. If you expected the economy to be in better shape before Obama's policies could be fully implemented YOU need to learn economics. Fixing the recession we are in in less than 2 years isn't possible. I especially don't understand how you can expect things to turn around in his first year in office. He couldn't have possible done anything that would take less than a year to help the economy. But now in recent months, hundreds of thousands of jobs have been created.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Fixing the economy in 1 1/2 years was an impossible task. If you expected the economy to be in better shape before Obama's policies could be fully implemented YOU need to learn economics. Fixing the recession we are in in less than 2 years isn't possible. I especially don't understand how you can expect things to turn around in his first year in office. He couldn't have possible done anything that would take less than a year to help the economy. But now in recent months, hundreds of thousands of jobs have been created.
    So spending trillions of dollars to generate these results and you are willing to give him more time? What does the debt have to be before you say enough is enough? Do you have any understanding of how much 3 trillion dollars in debt in 2 years equals? How does that debt affect you?

    I would agree with you if he didn't hit the ground running with a Democrat controlled Congress but that is what happened. He implemented policy day one in office and signed the stimulus plan a week later. That plan was to cap unemployment at 8%. How did that work out for the country and if he thought it was going to take more time why did he make the claim?

    Please stop buying the rhetoric and actually get the facts. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is the place to go to find out where those hundreds of thousands of jobs were created. Go there and get the facts, bls.gov. Stop buying what you are told by the left even though you want to believe the rhetoric. Why is that? Why aren't there any consequences in the liberal world? Do you have any clue as to what all this govt. spending is going to cost you and your family? Please get an education.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Fixing the economy in 1 1/2 years was an impossible task. If you expected the economy to be in better shape before Obama's policies could be fully implemented YOU need to learn economics. Fixing the recession we are in in less than 2 years isn't possible. I especially don't understand how you can expect things to turn around in his first year in office. He couldn't have possible done anything that would take less than a year to help the economy. But now in recent months, hundreds of thousands of jobs have been created.
    I don't believe that Obama's policies are the right ones, but I do admit that you have a point. After all, when the market crashed in 1929, it did not reach that level again until 1954. Do we therefore blame Eisenhower for the Great Depression?
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    reagan's dead, obama's president, his agenda is out of reach

    it is what it is

    happy potty parity, progressives

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So spending trillions of dollars to generate these results and you are willing to give him more time? What does the debt have to be before you say enough is enough? Do you have any understanding of how much 3 trillion dollars in debt in 2 years equals? How does that debt affect you?

    I would agree with you if he didn't hit the ground running with a Democrat controlled Congress but that is what happened. He implemented policy day one in office and signed the stimulus plan a week later. That plan was to cap unemployment at 8%. How did that work out for the country and if he thought it was going to take more time why did he make the claim?

    Please stop buying the rhetoric and actually get the facts. The Bureau of Labor Statistics is the place to go to find out where those hundreds of thousands of jobs were created. Go there and get the facts, bls.gov. Stop buying what you are told by the left even though you want to believe the rhetoric. Why is that? Why aren't there any consequences in the liberal world? Do you have any clue as to what all this govt. spending is going to cost you and your family? Please get an education.
    Just post one paragraph next time with actual material instead of three next time in which two are meaningless crap.

    A direct quote from BLS, "Job gains occurred in manufacturing, professional and business services, health care, and leisure and hospitality." Thanks for helping me in proving my point.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Just post one paragraph next time with actual material instead of three next time in which two are meaningless crap.

    A direct quote from BLS, "Job gains occurred in manufacturing, professional and business services, health care, and leisure and hospitality." Thanks for helping me in proving my point.
    Great job of picking and choosing data that you believe supports your point of view. It takes almost 500,000 jobs a month to make any kind of dent in the unemployment rate so the measly 300,000 caused the rates to rise and the number of unemployed and discouraged to grow. Only a true liberal can spin those numbers positively. You make my point with every post, you are young, immature, naive, and factually challenged.

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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great job of picking and choosing data that you believe supports your point of view. It takes almost 500,000 jobs a month to make any kind of dent in the unemployment rate so the measly 300,000 caused the rates to rise and the number of unemployed and discouraged to grow. Only a true liberal can spin those numbers positively. You make my point with every post, you are young, immature, naive, and factually challenged.
    Ok. So what you really expected when Obama took office is for him to turn an economy where 700000 people every month are losing their jobs to an economy where 500000 people are gaining jobs over night?

    Maybe you're just upset because conservatives predicted that Obama would obliterate the economy and in reality it's turning around. I wonder what you'll say when we start gaining 500000 jobs every month?

    EDIT: Also, show me where the number of discouraged workers grew in april. I think you're making it up.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...id=l8TqaUJhfnM

    The number of discouraged workers, or people who want a job but are not counted in the labor force has now dropped by 355,000 since December.
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    Re: Mark Critz Defeats Tim Burns in Pennsylvania Special Election for Murtha's Seat

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Fixing the economy in 1 1/2 years was an impossible task.

    maybe so, maybe not. The problem here is Obama did, or didn't do what he thought was the correct course of action, but that he chose a Keynesian approach that has failed miserably in every other place it has been instituted. Get a load of Greece, this is Obama's path but on a much larger scale.


    If you expected the economy to be in better shape before Obama's policies could be fully implemented YOU need to learn economics.

    With all due respect sir, if you think that the only way to dig out of a recession like the one we are still in, is to print ever increasing amounts of money, backed by loans from other countries to fund our debt and social morass, then it may just be you whom needs some refresher in econ 101.


    Fixing the recession we are in in less than 2 years isn't possible.

    The first thing that should have been pledged to the American people is like a doctor, first do no harm!


    I especially don't understand how you can expect things to turn around in his first year in office.

    You have to stop the bleeding first...Obama opened the wound and poured steroids in it.


    He couldn't have possible done anything that would take less than a year to help the economy.

    Not true at all. There were plenty of things that would have helped stimulate business to let them know that the government had their back, and they would have started producing more. As it is now, Obama is schizophrenic with business. One minute demonizing them to the public, the next patting them on the back. They don't know which way to turn, but they do know one thing, higher taxes, and mandated expenditures will destroy them.


    But now in recent months, hundreds of thousands of jobs have been created.

    NOT TRUE!!!!! Obama in his term so far has watched MILLIONS of jobs disappear while he plays golf. Now you libs want to yell success from the roof tops over a couple of bell hop jobs? Give me a break! Unemployment is a reported 9.9% which is a lie because the actual number of people out of work, out of benefits, and out of patience is closer to 17%. Obama may just unseat Carter as the worst disaster to this country in memory!


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