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    Re: Rand Paul wins, and libertarians rejoice

    Quote Originally Posted by Progressive86 View Post
    They may have made the right decision in Kentucky by helping Rand Paul get elected but you have to admit that they messed up in the Texas primary by electing Rick Perry instead of the Libertarian candidate Debra Medina. One more fact is that in these two elections, Both candidates that won were endorsed by Sarah Palin so doesn't that bother you a bit because it seems as if they are leaning a lot where she leans?

    that's not necessarily a bad thing as far as Americans are concerned.


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    The Plum Line - Rand Paul spox: Fed gov't should bar businesses from discriminating

    A spokesman for Rand Paul just clarified to me that the candidate does, in fact, believe that the Federal government should have the power to ban private businesses from discriminating based on race.
    So much for sticking to his guns. Rand Paul went on several shows on several separate occasions and always danced around the question, but it was obvious that he thought a private business SHOULD be allowed to discriminate on a racial basis. Now his handlers are trying to backpedal for him.

    I don't know the local politics but this seems like something that could sink his election run. Now he's either a "flip flopper" or he holds a backwards-ass view on civil rights.
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    Re: Rand Paul wins, and libertarians rejoice

    “Do you support Title II of the 1964 Civil Rights bill which prohibited discrimination on the basis or race, religion, gender or national origin for private businesses providing public accommodations?”

    That question should be asked of every candidate for high office.

    Thank you, Rand Paul.

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    Remember folks, everyone in the world (other than the enlightened liberals) are damn dirty racists and if you don't have mother government to watch over you and force them to be good then they're just going to be horrible racist heathens that will screw you all out of everything so give all your power to big mother government and be sure to insult anyone that says anything contrary as juvenile.

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    Re: Rand Paul wins, and libertarians rejoice

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Remember folks, everyone in the world (other than the enlightened liberals) are damn dirty racists and if you don't have mother government to watch over you and force them to be good then they're just going to be horrible racist heathens that will screw you all out of everything so give all your power to big mother government and be sure to insult anyone that says anything contrary as juvenile.
    Do you really think that's a fair characterization of our views?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Rand Paul wins, and libertarians rejoice

    It's terrible that Dr. Paul has fallen victim to the politics of the day. His position on the Civil Rights Act was principled and intellectually justified. It's too bad he's being smeared and his campaign jeopardized for speaking openly and honestly about his libertarian views on private property.

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    Re: Rand Paul wins, and libertarians rejoice

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you really think that's a fair characterization of our views?
    I think its an exaggeration, which is what I think many people are doing in regards to Paul's views and libertarians in general.

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    Re: Rand Paul wins, and libertarians rejoice

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you really think that's a fair characterization of our views?
    I think it absolutely is.

    Every time someone dislikes legislation dealing with race, gender, etc. you guys crow like a bunch of banshees about how that person is racist, sexist, yada yada.

    You guys somehow think that federal legislation is almost always the answer to life's problems.
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    Re: Rand Paul wins, and libertarians rejoice

    Quote Originally Posted by alms View Post
    It's terrible that Dr. Paul has fallen victim to the politics of the day. His position on the Civil Rights Act was principled and intellectually justified. It's too bad he's being smeared and his campaign jeopardized for speaking openly and honestly about his libertarian views on private property.
    He's being "smeared" because his "principled and intellectually justified" position would have us rolling back civil rights about 50 years. Rand Paul seems to think property rights trump civil rights. No, sir, you do NOT have the right to run a whites-only restaurant. You don't have a right to steal, kill, or discriminate. Why? Because those things harm people.

    His position doesn't even make sense. *Every* business benefits from public funds, via the country's impressive infrastructure, police protection, fire protection, etc.

    And now his aides are trying to backpedal his "principled" position because it's extremist and nobody supports it.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Rand Paul wins, and libertarians rejoice

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    He's being "smeared" because his "principled and intellectually justified" position would have us rolling back civil rights about 50 years. Rand Paul seems to think property rights trump civil rights. No, sir, you do NOT have the right to run a whites-only restaurant. You don't have a right to steal, kill, or discriminate. Why? Because those things harm people.

    His position doesn't even make sense. *Every* business benefits from public funds, via the country's impressive infrastructure, police protection, fire protection, etc.

    And now his aides are trying to backpedal his "principled" position because it's extremist.
    Exactly why Zyphlin's post was justified.

    You think that discrimination is only prevented by federal legislation.
    Geesh.
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