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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    It once more depends on if they are a hypocrite or not. And certainly there are plenty of examples of Republicans doing these things and being excused by their fellows.

    John Edwards, for instance, constantly talked about how important his family is to him, and paraded around his wife and spoke of family values. He was rightly criticized by Democrats for this and has no political future whatsoever.

    Newt Gingrich, on the other hand, cheated on his wife and served her divorce papers while she was in a hospital bed recovering from serious surgery. He's one of the possible GOP Presidential candidates in 2012.
    i think that's exactly why he WON'T run for president.

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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Another right wing hypocrite.. who would have thought.

    but at least this hypocrite is not gay...
    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The one good thing that comes out of all of these hypocrites is that any time the GOP now tries to claim that they are the party of "Family Values"....they are laughed right out of the room.
    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Seriously, I think it's the hypocrisy that is most disturbing in cases like this. when they pretend to be holier than thou supporters of "family values" and are anything but that...
    Please please PLEASE get dictionaries.

    Hypocrisy is a double standard, NOT failing to live up to your own standards. And their own standards in this case - "don't cheat" - are the same as everyone else's, "family values" or not. And is anyone here actually anti-family? Because apparently, in order to cheat and not be a hypocrite, you have to hate families. This being according to people who don't know what the definition of "hypocrite" is.

    /rant

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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    And their own standards in this case - "don't cheat" - are the same as everyone else's, "family values" or not.
    Seems so obvious, but apparently some haven't figured this out yet.

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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The one good thing that comes out of all of these hypocrites is that any time the GOP now tries to claim that they are the party of "Family Values"....they are laughed right out of the room.
    I would imagine that any wanna be or actual Politician that wanted to lay claim to having Family values should be laughed at.

    There are all of them equally venal.

    It is all about power and wealth for self.

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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Please please PLEASE get dictionaries.

    Hypocrisy is a double standard, NOT failing to live up to your own standards. And their own standards in this case - "don't cheat" - are the same as everyone else's, "family values" or not. And is anyone here actually anti-family? Because apparently, in order to cheat and not be a hypocrite, you have to hate families. This being according to people who don't know what the definition of "hypocrite" is.

    /rant
    Oh come now, there is a difference between a preacher saying "family values" and some guy who doesn't say a word about it. It's a matter of degree, of course. Both of them are wrong for cheating, and both are hypocritical if they took oaths to be true but then cheated, but the degree of hypocrisy is not the same.

    You shouldn't be pointing fingers at people, telling them how they should live, when you don't even abide by your own standards. THAT is the distinction.

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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Oh come now, there is a difference between a preacher saying "family values" and some guy who doesn't say a word about it.
    Why? And what is "family values"? It could mean all sorts of things. Here we're talking about cheating on one's spouse. So if "family values" means staying true to your spouse, then basically *everyone* is pro-family values... and whether they say it or not doesn't matter. If you don't say a word to defend your own beliefs, it doesn't make you any better in the same situation.

    It's a matter of degree, of course. Both of them are wrong for cheating, and both are hypocritical if they took oaths to be true but then cheated, but the degree of hypocrisy is not the same.

    You shouldn't be pointing fingers at people, telling them how they should live, when you don't even abide by your own standards. THAT is the distinction.
    No, because again, hypocrisy is a double standard, not failing to live up to one's standards. If the guy says, "cheating was justified in MY case", then he is a hypocrite. If he admits he was in the wrong, then he's not a hypocrite. And as for "telling them how they should live", none of these so-called hypocrites are ever known for preaching against adultery, so that's not even relevant.

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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is for Democrats and Republicans both - Why is it that they always talk about walking with the Lord AFTER they get caught? Souder gets righteous. John Edwards got righteous. They ALL get righteous, and it is always after the fact. Is it about religion and getting right with God, or is it really about politics? They had better think twice. Once you are in Heaven, you don't run for office, so a little elbow rubbing with God, and a little name dropping of "God", just isn't going to work. LOL.

    Article is here
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    I know, right...

    Just once, one of these guys should get up and say:

    I've come to realize that God is fake and morality is a meaningless human construct. We are all a chaotic random mess of carbon and water.

    I therefore will commence a murder, rape, kill rampage while taking massive quantities of cocaine and heroine.

    Stop me if you must, but the pleasure I experience before dying in a blaze of glory outside some cheap motel, will have more meaning and purpose than you can possibly understand.

    Tell my kids I only really loved the smart, good-looking one with real potential.

    So long and hail satan.

    Sincerely,

    The Honorable Douglas P. Wittinghammer, Esq.


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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    If you're going to cheat on your wife and screw teenage girls - for god's sake be a Democrat where they pat you on the back and tell you to "go get 'em!"
    At least Democrats don't pretend to be something that they clearly are not.
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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    At least Democrats don't pretend to be something that they clearly are not.
    Decent human beings?


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    Re: Indiana Rep. Mark Souder Resigns After Affair With Staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Please please PLEASE get dictionaries.

    Hypocrisy is a double standard, NOT failing to live up to your own standards. And their own standards in this case - "don't cheat" - are the same as everyone else's, "family values" or not. And is anyone here actually anti-family? Because apparently, in order to cheat and not be a hypocrite, you have to hate families. This being according to people who don't know what the definition of "hypocrite" is.

    /rant
    Wow...with spin like that you should be the chairman of the GOP to help them restore their image.

    "See....we in the Republican party aren't hypocrites because we say one thing and do another. Just.....do as we say, not as we do!".
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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