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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    How absolutely low and ridiculous.

    So for months upon months now Rush Limbaugh and others have lambasted and joked, to the roaring approving laughter of fans, how Obama says we should be our "brother's keeper" but that his brother lives in a shack and is in a bad part of the world and why doesn't old Obama be his brother's keeper and help his family member out and get HIM out of poverty.

    So then we have someone related to Obama granted asylum here. We don't know the facts, yet people are already jumping the gun with suggestions, implications, and assumptions that this was all done based on Obama. However, even assuming that's the case, isn't that just doing what Rush and others have essentially been lambasting him for NOT doing with his brother?

    So lets see here...

    If he doesn't help his distant family that don't live here he's being a hypocrite for talking about people needing to be their "brother's keeper" and is worthy of ridicule for not using his resources to help his family out.

    If someone in his distant family actually does make it into America though, we're to assume and imply immedietely that its because of Obama, and if it is the case that it was because of Obama we should lambast and attack him for using his resources to help his family out.

    For the love of christ, this is why hyper partisans always look foolish, because they give up any attempt at individual integrity or insight in exchange for continual attempts at scoring political points. Its actions and attitudes like presented here that make real, legitimate, honest, adult political discourse so difficult in this country.
    So when are those facts coming out? And are you saying that it's entirely inappropriate to suggest that Obama's blood line had zero, nada to do with asylum being granted?

    Partisanism aside... I'm not willing to voluntarily become naive for the sake of political correctness.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    Why does anyone need to examine anything? Is this old lady going to effect your lives in any way?

    I don't like Obama, and I don't think he's good for this country. But I couldn't care less about his aunt. Let her stay here. Who cares????
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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's such an AWFUL thing to do something for your family when you can. nobody EVER does that.

    It's an abuse of power and the public trust and possibly a crime, it's illegal for a cop to get his friend off a parking ticket and it's illegal for a politician to use his office to do favors for friends and family, same thing here.

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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    What's the point of being President if you can't call in some favors for your friends/family?

    I have no idea if he DID call in a favor or not, but if he did I wouldn't be surprised or bothered. I'd be more bothered by him NOT helping her into the country if her life truly was in danger in Kenya. That, to me, would speak more ill of his character.

    Even if he had absolutely nothing to do with it personally, there's still a good chance that it happened because of the relationship. I mean, would YOU want to be the person who denied asylum to the President's family? LOL

    So anywho, I really don't care much about this.

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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    It's an abuse of power and the public trust and possibly a crime, it's illegal for a cop to get his friend off a parking ticket and it's illegal for a politician to use his office to do favors for friends and family, same thing here.
    in this instance, i don't care.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    Its not political correctness, I swear that term gets bandied about for everything and with seeming no real care for what it means.

    Its having a bit of integrity. The news just broke. I'm sure people will dig into it some. I'm not even saying digging into it is wrong. I'm not even saying QUESTIONING it is wrong. Its the smug, snide, "nothing to see here" obvious implications and assumptions as if its a foregone conclussion that:

    1) Obama definitely had somethin to do with it
    2) That it is somehow illegal or unethical

    I know I'm no expert on Asylum law, I doubt many others on the forum are. I doubt many on the forums are even rudimentally aware of them. I have no clue if Obama, or Bush, or anyone helping someone claim Asylum would be "wrong" if there's a legitimate reason for Asylum. Not to mention am I going to have a huge fit about it unless there's some huge law that its violating.

    Almost everyone, at some point in their life, has gotten some advantage or a leg up because of a connection. Ask almost anyone in a professional work force and you'll hear often times its who you know that's as important as what you know when it comes to getting something. Ever have a great reference on an application?

    I didn't care when liberals would scream that Bush got out of the war and into the Guard because of family connections, and I wouldn't really care about this. Its how the world works, and not just in the upper class or in the "aritstocracy"...and not just for republicans or just for democrats...but for just about everyone in some way shape or form at some point.

    Yet I don't remember many, if any, conservatives on this forum making sarcastic assumptions and implications that the Bush's were lying about not asking their family friend to get W into the guard, or that they were never curious how he just magically got higher up on the waiting list. Yet they're just "curious" now.

    Bull****, its partisan, plain and simple. Its an issue that the vast majority of the people already damning Obama through innuendo and implication in this thread wouldn't blink an eye at if it was a person with an (R) next to their name.

    And that's not even touching on the hypocrisy of belittling and attacking Obama for NOT using his resources to help his family members abroad to then turn around and before its even certain or not attack him for supposedly using his resources to help his family members abroad.

    Contrary to what you may be predisposed to in the 24/7, everything On-Demand, society we live in now...things do sometimes take longer than 24 hours for investigations to happen, more facts to come out, etc. Its not political correctness to suggest that people not make assumptions and present them as almost foregone facts, its common sense and decency regardless the situation...regardless the (R) or (D) next to their name...regardless of whether its accusing Tea Partiers of planting a bomb or an Obama Supporter of carving a B in someones forehead.

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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    What's the point of being President if you can't call in some favors for your friends/family?

    I have no idea if he DID call in a favor or not, but if he did I wouldn't be surprised or bothered. I'd be more bothered by him NOT helping her into the country if her life truly was in danger in Kenya. That, to me, would speak more ill of his character.

    Even if he had absolutely nothing to do with it personally, there's still a good chance that it happened because of the relationship. I mean, would YOU want to be the person who denied asylum to the President's family? LOL

    So anywho, I really don't care much about this.
    If he didn't specifically call in the favor, but it did happen because of her relations to Obama, would it be any different...at all...to George W. Bush bypassing numerous other individuals to become part of the Air National Guard thus managing to avoid going to war, all based off the workings of a family friend that they "didn't know" acted on George's behalf?

    And would we see the same response from conservatives and republicans as we did to that news when it came out?

    Yeah, bit rhetorical to both.

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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The topic, in case you missed it: "Obama's aunt granted asylum"
    i know, thanks

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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    his brother lives in a shack and is in a bad part of the world...
    are you sure we're allowed to bring up his brother?

    i mean, we were talking about HIS AUNT, weren't we?

    just kidding

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    Re: Obama's aunt granted asylum

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    so whats the problem there? or should the president make time in his schedule to visit an aunt?
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