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    Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    The Supreme Court ruled Monday the federal government has the power to indefinitely keep some sex offenders behind bars after they have served their sentences, if officials determine those inmates may prove "sexually dangerous" in the future.

    "The federal government, as custodian of its prisoners, has the constitutional power to act in order to protect nearby (and other) communities from the danger such prisoners may pose," Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for the 7-2 majority.

    Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs
    Thomas and Scalia dissented. I gotta read this. I am happy with this outcome, and I love when I see the libs and the cons agree on a subject matter. Here's a link to the decision. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1224.pdf

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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    I think this is the wrong way to go about this. If jail is not sufficient to rehabilitate these folks, than they probably need to be in a psychiatric facility instead.

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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Thomas and Scalia dissented. I gotta read this. I am happy with this outcome, and I love when I see the libs and the cons agree on a subject matter. Here's a link to the decision. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1224.pdf

    I accidentally put the link as the title. I apologize.

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    I think I kinda disagree with this, though I have a hard time getting worked up over it, since I loathe and detest and despise sexual predators. I think it is a dangerous precedent.

    I do find it interesting how this is one that does not fall along classical liberal/conservative divisions.
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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    I would like to see how it is implemented before I make a judgement. Obviously, a two time, or three time, sex offender being held indefinitely causes me a lot less psychic pain than--for instance--forgetting to turn off my bedroom lights when I leave my house. On the other hand, I don't want two or three time "sex offenders" being locked up indefinitely for urinating in public and/or streaking at a game.

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    Aps source linked to another ruling handed down today which I think is interesting as well: Court: Sentencing juveniles to life without parole 'cruel and unusual' – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

    Sentencing some juvenile criminals to life in prison without parole is "cruel and unusual" punishment, especially when their crime is not murder, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.
    I have to agree with this one. Life in prison without parole for minors is probably not a good idea except in the case of the most extreme crimes.
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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    I would say for repeat sex offenders they should be held indefinitely. The sick thing is that so many get out of jail and return to molesting innocent children. Monsters like that deserve to be jailed for the rest of their lives. I agree with the SCOTUS decision. However, I don't think first time offenders should be held indefinitely.

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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    its ridiculous, if there's a high chance of them re-offending, as megaprogman said, they should be sent to a psych ward.
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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I would say for repeat sex offenders they should be held indefinitely. The sick thing is that so many get out of jail and return to molesting innocent children. Monsters like that deserve to be jailed for the rest of their lives. I agree with the SCOTUS decision. However, I don't think first time offenders should be held indefinitely.
    I agree with you, but the problem I have is that we can make the penalty under the law to be life in prison without parole. I think that is a more sensible way to handle it. Change it at the sentencing level, not just say that if the government finds they may be a threat after they have served their sentence, we can hold them. That concept scares me.
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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    I can't believe the editor let this title print.

    I would have changed "held" to "detained".

    Sex offenders just want to be held.

    I think it's a bad idea because some kids will lie and that could ruin someone's life. Your employer won't hold your job indefinitely. While this isn't the norm, it could still happen.
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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    I skimmed the opinions, and it should be noted that only mentally ill patients classified as sexually ill who have committed violent sexual acts against children and are considered likely to relapse qualify. A hearing to determine danger to society is set up like a trial, where the accused has council and evidence is presented. If found a danger, the inmate will be transmitted to mental institution, either state or federal.

    This sort of thing skates on really thin ice. You serve your sentence in prison, no more and no less. Anything else is a miscarriage of justice. On the other hand, the state does have the ability to commit dangerous mentally unbalanced people to institutions, indefinitely if needed. What bothers me is the inconsistency of the whole matter. If the perp is so crazy they need to be locked up in a mental facility, they should have been allowed to plead insanity during the trial and sent to an institution instead of prison in the first place. Second, it seems to imply that sex offenders are being treated differently than other dangerous mentally ill people, which doesn't sit right either.

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