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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You don't know how sex offenders would be treated in general population in prison?
    They chose to commit a crime and violate someone else.
    They are perfectly capable of recognizing right from wrong - they *know* they've done wrong, they just chose to do it, anyway. And most make serious efforts to cover up their wrong, too.

    In with teh regular population, imho, is where they belong.

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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Maybe I am just slow this morning. I know my caffeine level is still low...but what are you saying here?
    Two fold...

    First, is highlighting the fact that support of this for many may very well be an emotional response, born out of a hatred for Sexual Predators, rather than one based out of principle or reason. To highlight this I changed sexual predator to terrorist and asked people to consider if they'd stll feel the same way about it.

    Second, was to highlight the notion that some people see this and KNOW its a slippery slope KNOW its possibly wrong but still can't rightly get upset or heated about it, or perhaps even be against it, based on their extreme disdain for the group in question (sexual predators). After highlighting this notion, asking those same people to perhaps attempt to use that experience as a means of perhaps better understanding those who have a similar experience when it comes to terrorists.

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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    For a so-called libertarian that's a pretty big stick you're handing the government!

    Here's my problems with such a ruling:

    1) "Sex offender" and "child molester" are not the same thing. How many cases have we seen people blackmarked for life over something absurd? I remember a case where a 16 year old had sex with his 16 year old girlfriend, legally. Girlfriend takes a picture of said act and sends it to him. Arrested for possession of child pornography. Or some guy gets drunk and stumbles outside naked, public indecency. Sex offender for life.

    2) If we're just going to ignore sentencing, why do it in the first place? "Welp, we'll let you out when and IF we feel like it."

    3) What's to stop this precedent from being expanded to robbery, smoking pot, or unlawful possession of a firearm?

    Edit: And as liblady posted above, we don't imprison people for crimes they might commit.
    Not really when you consider that the absurd doesn't fall under the category of most. Most of us can agree that the absurd sex offenders are really just guilty of the government knowing what is best for the serfs.
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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Does taking a **** in my wife's purse while jacking off make me an absurd sex offender?
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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Aps source linked to another ruling handed down today which I think is interesting as well: Court: Sentencing juveniles to life without parole 'cruel and unusual' – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs



    I have to agree with this one. Life in prison without parole for minors is probably not a good idea except in the case of the most extreme crimes.
    Dont you think that this has in the past only been used in the most extreme cases.

    Incidentally, by using that particular phrase 'Most extreme cases' these punishments are based on subjective decisions?

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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Does taking a **** in my wife's purse while jacking off make me an absurd sex offender?
    At least a bit strange I would think.
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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    really? statistics show that first time offenders ARE not first time offenders, it was just the first time they were caught.

    they went to prison with a specific sentence, and if they served that sentence, they can't be kept. we should change our laws, not ignore them.
    I still think you shouldn't put someone in for life on a first conviction of the crime (unless it was just a simply atrocious crime like having a child harem or something). I think we should try to rehabilitate all sex offenders and monitor them heavily after they leave prison. If they commit the crime again they should be jailed for life. I support giving everyone a second chance and introducing them back to society, but if they choose to violate the rights of others (through sex crimes) they forfeit their freedom and deserve to be jailed for life for our protection.

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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    At least a bit strange I would think.
    Would I have to wear a clown suit while doing it for it to be absurd?
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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Would I have to wear a clown suit while doing it for it to be absurd?
    You have to post a pic before I could make that determination.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    You have to post a pic before I could make that determination.
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