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    Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

    AP IMPACT: US drug war has met none of its goals

    MEXICO CITY After 40 years, the United States' war on drugs has cost $1 trillion and hundreds of thousands of lives, and for what? Drug use is rampant and violence even more brutal and widespread.

    Even U.S. drug czar Gil Kerlikowske concedes the strategy hasn't worked.

    "In the grand scheme, it has not been successful," Kerlikowske told The Associated Press. "Forty years later, the concern about drugs and drug problems is, if anything, magnified, intensified."
    AP IMPACT: US drug war has met none of its goals - Yahoo! News

    Of course, many of us have been saying this for decades and already knew it was true, but it's nice to see the world catching up. The line from the article that sums it all up:

    "Current policy is not having an effect of reducing drug use," Miron said, "but it's costing the public a fortune."
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    Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

    But unfortunately, what is the solution? I mean I'm all for legalzing marijuana, but no hard core drugs, they're such a threat to the population. I mean in some ways I guess you could justify it by saying that people that wanna do it, are gonna do it anyway.

    I don't know. there's no way we can legalize hard drugs, and this "war on drugs" is unsustainable.

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    I think we need to get other countries to help participate. May of these countries that have people smuggling drugs into America don't take the war on drugs seriously. They aren't holding up their end. I have mixed feelings about legalizing marijuana, but we should certainly keep hard drugs illegal (like crack and heroine). Our laws are strict enough when it comes to punishing drug abusers so I wouldn't say increasing punishments would solve the issue, in fact they should lessen the punishments and have them pay a massive fine (to maybe help offset the cost for the war on drugs). If anything we should get foreign governments to do their part in preventing smugglers from leaving their country, and we should be offering deals to drug users to give info on who dealers are so we can catch them. Hopefully little by little we will put dents in it here and there by arresting known dealers and working with foreign governments.

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    Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But unfortunately, what is the solution? I mean I'm all for legalzing marijuana, but no hard core drugs, they're such a threat to the population. I mean in some ways I guess you could justify it by saying that people that wanna do it, are gonna do it anyway.

    I don't know. there's no way we can legalize hard drugs, and this "war on drugs" is unsustainable.
    If you cannot win the war you only have two choices. Keep fighting and wasting money or leave people alone.
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    Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    AP IMPACT: US drug war has met none of its goals - Yahoo! News

    Of course, many of us have been saying this for decades and already knew it was true, but it's nice to see the world catching up. The line from the article that sums it all up:
    I guess I'm happy...admitting the truth is a start. Now if only we could get Eric Holder or Barack Obama to say something similar. And then to end this silly war on drugs. They have both been a huge disappointment on that front.
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    Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But unfortunately, what is the solution? I mean I'm all for legalzing marijuana, but no hard core drugs, they're such a threat to the population. I mean in some ways I guess you could justify it by saying that people that wanna do it, are gonna do it anyway.

    I don't know. there's no way we can legalize hard drugs, and this "war on drugs" is unsustainable.
    The main reason that hardcore drugs are such a threat to the population is BECAUSE they're illegal. If they were legal, you wouldn't have the black market and all the associated violence. You could also prevent at least SOME of the deaths due to overdoses, because people wouldn't have to rely on a criminal to supply their drugs and they'd know exactly how much they were getting.
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    Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

    We will never be able to deal with our drug problem as long as we compound it with a manufactured criminal problem. It is high time we focused our resources on dealing with our drug problem divorced and unshackled from the dead weight of the criminal problem our policy of prohibition has created.

    I am glad to see Kerlikowski actually admitting that prohibition "In the grand scheme, ... has not been successful" although that is a huge understatement. There is a huge discrepancy between policy, and what and where the funding is going and this current round of rhetoric.

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    Re: Drug Czar admits the drug war is a failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I guess I'm happy...admitting the truth is a start. Now if only we could get Eric Holder or Barack Obama to say something similar. And then to end this silly war on drugs. They have both been a huge disappointment on that front.
    They might change the tone, i.e. focus on prevention and education, but they won't end the war. Baby steps. The bottom line is that you will NEVER win the war by locking people up and trying to seize all the drugs. If 40 years hasn't driven that point home what will? How much more evidence do they need? Another 40 years? They complain about crowded (and expensive) prisons, an over taxed legal system, gangs, and violence, etc. while ignoring that the War on Drugs is the root cause of most of it.
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